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post #1 of 17 Old 02-16-2017, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
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I did a search but didn't come across a topic.
I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this so please move it if not.

I want to add a small 120 volt invertor to my 2016 KLR.
I'm in Southern California where I do all my riding and mostly in fair weather so I'll never be using heated grips or gloves but I need to know what the stator capacity is so I can figure out what size inverter I could get by with.

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Best guess would be that the Gen 2 has about 140 watts of excess capacity, assuming stock lighting and running on low beam.

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What 120v accessory will you be powering and for how long at a time?
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Best guess would be that the Gen 2 has about 140 watts of excess capacity, assuming stock lighting and running on low beam.

gen2 amperage output
Yes 140 watts on low beam. You lose 55 watts with the high beam and about 35 watts with the radiator fan.
For a stationary application (not ridding) you could pick up another 55 watts by disconnecting the low beam, but the fan would be running a lot.

You can save some power by converting to LED lighting all around. And for short periods of time you can gain some more power by pulling some from the battery. You could even install an extra deep cycle battery.

What is your application that requires 120 VAC?
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Just a heads up in case yor ideas involves charging other things. I use inverters at work to charge tool batteries up when there's no power on the job site. Many new types of chargers don't seem to work when plugged in to inverters. I think it has something to do with "dirty electricity", if that makes any sense. Just make sure whatever you're planning on plugging in gets along with inverters before you lay out a bunch of coin.
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Even 'DeWalt' battery chargers are sensitive to the 'Hertz' cycles.
They will show a flashing code of "Problem, Power Line .. .. .. ..".

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Mostly I just want to charge phone, cam batteries, little stuff like that. I would set it up on a relay so it can only run while engine running if that's needed so battery doesn't get drained.
Good point about some devices not liking inverter power and thanks for mentioning. I have a similar problem sometimes with that using the old 2500 watt inverter I have in my service van.

So...not alot of "spare" capacity from the stator it sounds like. I'll have to look into the LED bulbs.
Is there a tried and liked H7?

Thanks a lot for the input so far!
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I tried some H7 LED from a couple of different manufactures as well as some H7 HID and didn't like any of them in the stock fixtures. Non matched the shape and size of the H7 incandescent elements and the reflector sent the light everywhere -in the trees, in the ditch, off the road.....

I am back to H7 incandescent bulbs. I now use some LED spot lights with matched elements and reflectors for extra down road light.

For GPS and phone charging I use a 12 volt USB charger.
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Aren't inverters quite inefficient, too? If, arguably, you've got 140 watts available and the inverter is 50% efficient, then that's 70 watts of power at 120V. About half an amp. Then whatever is plugged into the inverter is inefficient as well.

I'm not sure what you can do with half an amp at the inverter.

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Mostly I just want to charge phone, cam batteries, little stuff like that.
If that's all you have in mind, dan filipi, I refer you to a lithium jump-start battery.

These electrical wonders, about the size of cell phone, can start your bike with 200 cold cranking amps, when necessary. Further, at any time, these little auxiliary power packs can charge any and all the devices you mention with the wiring harness and connectors included.

Further, the battery itself can be charged from the 12 VDC on your bike (automobile lighter plug included).

Did I mention the LED flashlight, strobe, and SOS modes?

Get yourself one of these little wonders, and you won't have to fool with inverters and stuff like that:

https://www.cyclegear.com/jump-boxes

The auxiliary battery might come in handy, fetched from the glove compartment of your daily driver sometime, too!

Summary of features of one model (many similar):

Features:
Dimensions: 6.75 L x 3.25 W x 1H
Weight: 15.25oz
200 Amp- 400 peak amp jump starting ability
12000mAh of power
Jump start port
19v port for laptops
12v standard port for all 12v accessories
5V/1A USB charging port
5V/2A USB charging port
Hi-power LED flashlight with 3 modes: flashlight, strobe, and S.O.S
Battery level indicator
Built-in over-charge and over-discharge protections for long battery life
Automatic shut-off when not in use

Includes:
Micro-Start XP-1 Unit
Simulated leather carry case
Mini jumper clamps
Universal Cable with 8 different detachable tips to fit all the different brands of laptop charging ports
Universal Cable for all 12v accessories such as mobile DVD players, or other 12v accessories
4-in-1 USB cable with Micro USB, Mini USB, Apple 30 pin and Apple Lightning 8 pin connectors
Wall outlet charger
Cigarette lighter charger

FULL DISCLOSURE: No financial interest in Cycle Gear; this is the model I own (now on SALE!):

https://www.cyclegear.com/accessorie...backup-battery

Have started V-6 with it; oughta handle V-8s as well.

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