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post #1 of 10 Old 02-15-2011, 12:39 PM Thread Starter
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Hitting the Road, should I.................

I plan on using my Harley Ultra for LONG trips, but do plan on seeing the states on my KLR.
Presently, I have a taller Cee Bailey windshield, (kept the cold wind off me this fall), the doo .22 mods.
I did some trips on my former KLR, ('07)
I know it revs high, (well at least to me, but it is a rever).
But......................
It's just gonna be me on the bike, MAYBE a overnight bag, rain gear, travel light.
Has anyone dropped a bigger sproket on the front to gear it up, to lower the rpms, give me a little passing speed.
Also NICE seats????????
Mustang?
I read herer from a guy in Tullohoma Tn who makes custom seats. it looks cool!
I don't want to spend a TON of $$, but my arse should would be happy in a nice seat.
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post #2 of 10 Old 02-15-2011, 12:57 PM
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I have taken plenty of long trips on the KLR and a better seat is a must. At a bare minimum, something broader like the Corbin flat. Better if you can get something that looks or acts like a Russell. Mine is a broad, flat seat that I bodged together myself; I find it's good for as long as a tank of gas lasts.

When I travel the bike is pretty well loaded, and so I found the 16 tooth sprocket to be not to my liking. It did reduce the rpm some, but required down-shifting at any decent grade.

With a lighter load, it could work out for you, though. You should go ahead and try it to see if it will work for you. It's $30 and an hour of your time.

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post #3 of 10 Old 02-15-2011, 01:38 PM
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The "stock" chain sprockets for our bikes are 15 tooth front / 43 tooth rear. You can add or subtract teeth from either end. I find it easier to swap out the front counter shaft sprocket. I have 14, 15, and 16 teeth sprockets [or is that "tooth"?]. My day to day, run up and down the asphalt and gravel road sprocket is the 16 tooth. It drops my RPM's by about 300 at 70 MPH. I also run a taller rear tire, thinking that this reduces my RPM's, too. There is such a thing as getting them geared too high, so that you have to down shift to get up a slight incline. I haven't used a 14 tooth on the KLR in a few years. Any place that needs that low of gearing, I ain't taking that fat pig anyways. The bike is too tall and top heavy to be single tracking for me. That's why God made dirt bikes. You don't see many draft horses running in the Kentucky Derby for similar reasoning.

Here is a reasonably priced, good wearing sprocket by Primary:

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/pr...lVehParts=true

BTW, the "Primary Drive" chain and sprockets from Rocky Mountain are long lasting and inexpensive.

Hit the drop down box for tooth count options. 15 teeth are about the best all around gearing. 16 teeth makes first gear a bit tall for any off road or technical riding. I do some creek crossings, and frequently have to "hunt and peck" my way across the stream to dodge rocks. 16 teeth is too much for this. I do it, I just don't like it. Falling in the creek when its 30 degrees out and the water is half a degree above freezing harshes the joy of ridin'. 'Specially when you have 12 more miles to get to the house.

Seats. I suffer from "hot spots". Pressure points that become lava hot and unbearbly painful. The HD Panhead post-mounted saddles of the 1960's were about the last comfortable stock seat I enjoyed. Looking back now, at the time, I would have enjoyed a cast iron hay mower seat, if it meant getting wind in my face and my right hand around a throttle.

I find if I can spread the load out onto my thighs, I can add hours and miles to my day without developing a hatred for my motorcycle. Wider contact area, without cutting off circulation against a sharp seat contour. Riding motorcycle doesn't have to be brutal. We can put people into space stations for months at a time, and I never hear of them complaining. We should be able to create a pleasurable seat for our rides. Most custom seats are "form over function"......kinda like putting a set of rims on the Electra 225. Looks better, but don't help the ride none. The three or four biggest names in replacement seats are in business to customize, not comfort-ize. A seat that makes the ride more bearable and holds together as long as the bike does is a winner in my book.

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post #4 of 10 Old 02-15-2011, 05:21 PM
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Hell, that $20 ATV cover from walmart works quite well for me. I even have one on my Bandit.

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When I travel the bike is pretty well loaded, and so I found the 16 tooth sprocket to be not to my liking. It did reduce the rpm some, but required down-shifting at any decent grade.
My experience exactly. The 16 worked well, especially on pavement with just me on the bike. Loaded down for long trip and I found the 16 is just too high. Some will claim their bike is a stong runner and they do not have this problem. Without mods I doubt there is a big diff from bike to bike as long as there is nothing serious amiss. Bore kit and muffler upgrades could make a difference i suppose. But I have found the 15 to be the best fit for me. I don't like slabbing and the 15 is fine on 2 lanes.
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I have the 16 just for interstate running.
It's the one that stays on anyway but it's main purpose was to lower vibes and fuel use at speed.
It's fine off road in first and second gear but just the same don't use the thing as a motocrosser either.

Like SteelB I run the ATV unit from Wally's (via Lockjaw) and that widens the seat for my skinny arse.
Then the highway pegs come into play raising my thighs off the seat corner. Problems solved
at least for me.

There isn't a problem in the world running cross country on a KLR. Did NW Indiana to NY
last summer quite
comfortably. (The pack makes a perfect backrest.)
Passing was ok but not great at speed. Just hadda hit the hammer a little earlier.

Joe you can't go wrong seeing the USA from an on/ off vehicle! You'll have seen things the cagers
all miss as they whizz by, find lil' nooks to hide you n' the scooter for a nap, and take any turnoff
that tickles ya just to see where it leads. I enjoy "dissappearing". Find a deserted and hidden spot
to do a partial unpack and nap, twist open a can of ravioli, juice the chain, have a smoke, etc. in the
privacy of my own self before hitting the pavement for the next chapter in the ride.......

Have fun,
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Coming from 40 plus years off road racing and trials riding, (I retired 5 years ago when the past injuries just won't go away along with "Arthur Ritus" moving into many of me joints), to just road riding and touring.
I have a really hard time just "sitting" when I'm on the road.
My natural reaction is to stand while on 2 wheels, (which REALLY freaks my wife out), so my tushie is tender when sitting after a short period.
I have the Walmart ATV seat cushion cut up on my Harley Mustang and I can sorta last a tank full of fuel before........
I bought this bike for my "commute on nice days bike", (I have the Harley for open road, a Royal Enfield with a side car for most days when it's above 25 degrees out- when I broke the 1/2 century mark I desided to stop riding under 25 degrees on road, I know I'm turning into a big *****)!
Suddenly THIS bike has become my recent best friend!
I'd really like a Beemer GS, but can seem to justify the cost of one..
I'll try the 16 tooth sproket and maybe I can pic up a good saddle used (i.e. -broken in).
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At least the seats are more comfortable than the KTM seats!
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Coming from 40 plus years off road racing and trials riding, (I retired 5 years ago when the past injuries just won't go away along with "Arthur Ritus" moving into many of me joints), to just road riding and touring.
I have a really hard time just "sitting" when I'm on the road.
My natural reaction is to stand while on 2 wheels, (which REALLY freaks my wife out), so my tushie is tender when sitting after a short period.
I have the Walmart ATV seat cushion cut up on my Harley Mustang and I can sorta last a tank full of fuel before........
I bought this bike for my "commute on nice days bike", (I have the Harley for open road, a Royal Enfield with a side car for most days when it's above 25 degrees out- when I broke the 1/2 century mark I desided to stop riding under 25 degrees on road, I know I'm turning into a big *****)!
Suddenly THIS bike has become my recent best friend!
I'd really like a Beemer GS, but can seem to justify the cost of one..
I'll try the 16 tooth sproket and maybe I can pic up a good saddle used (i.e. -broken in).
Joe
At least the seats are more comfortable than the KTM seats!

My last bike was a Suzuki DRZ 400 and the KLR seat is a couch in comparison! I'm with you I stand and stretch while riding and try not to sit in the same spot for long. Also I'll get off the bike every couple of hours to stretch out.

I've been doing a lot of core exercise and think that's going to help. My lower back will get tired before my butt gives up usually. Realistically after about 8 hours on the bike I'm ready to call it. Would a high dollar seat help, don't care at that point.

I kinda think it's like a bicycle seat, there's no such thing as a comfy one, it's your butt that breaks in not the seat!

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...I kinda think it's like a bicycle seat, there's no such thing as a comfy one, it's your butt that breaks in not the seat!
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/Thread jack/

Brooks B17, B72, Pro, Champion Flyer - all good once broken in

\Thread jack\

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I raced road bikes for a few years... after a winter layoff it was painful to get back on a bike! Butt would be sore, shoulders, neck stiff. Takes me a few hundred miles to get back to pain free riding.

I've got an old Italian bike with a B17 on it. Looks like it should be torture but it's actually relatively comfy. At least they do break in/soften (somewhat) compared to synthetic saddles.

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