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post #1 of 17 Old 05-03-2013, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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O ring chain help

Hey guys! Just bought a new chain for my bike and having problems putting the master link together. Cant get the backing plate of the master link with the lil rubber O rings to stay on far enough so I can put the clip in?

Any tricks to doing this? This is the first O ring chain that I ever dealt with and seems like its gonna be a real pain!!
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You need a chain press tool to do this correctly.

Here's a cheap version but with tools you get what you pay for.

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Hey guys! Just bought a new chain for my bike and having problems putting the master link together. Cant get the backing plate of the master link with the lil rubber O rings to stay on far enough so I can put the clip in?

Any tricks to doing this? This is the first O ring chain that I ever dealt with and seems like its gonna be a real pain!!
You just need to compress the plate a bit. Got a small c-clamp or needle nose vice grips? Clamp it pretty good until you can see the grooves and it will stay that way until you can get the clip on.

Put some grease on the pins under the o-rings also.

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Exclamation Another Question???

Got the chain and sprockets on with no problems! I used a c clamp with and small socket to push it on. It was a lil awkward at first but it did the job eventually. Tightened up the counter shaft sprocket and the chain, then put it all back together and took her for a ride. Wow she runs smooth now!! Now I just have to take my forks off and have the seals done by Kawasaki and ill be good to go..

I do have another question though. I have been reading a lot about people putting RTV/wire on their clip for the master link. Should I really be worried about that clip popping off and get some wire?? Just wondering how many guys on here do that?? My clip seems to be seated pretty good and is facing in the right direction of the flow of the chain (closed end forward). I mainly ride this thing on the road, but will occaissionally take it on some cool old dirt roads and a few trails, pretty much where ever I want go, I hardley ever take her through deep mud though..

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I'm not sure how wire could work but I have been riding dirt and street bikes since the late '70s and have never had a masterlink come apart. Not saying it couldn't but I think it's less common than some let on. It sounds like you have it together correctly, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Not directing this against you, eric70412, but I've read some of these master link clips RTV/safety wire discussions and don't understand why people who don't really trust a master link-type chain and the clip would even put one on their motorcycle in the first place: why not go with a riveted chain and dispel all worries?

Me? I have no problem with master-link chains/clips and have used many of them. I've never seen a clip that was installed properly and in the direct orientation (as you seem to have taken care of) come off or break. We all hear the stories, but I would guess they all originate from somebody who didn't install the link/clip properly in the first place and either had it backwards or not fully-seated.

Were I you, I would rest easy and ride on, sans RTV or safety wire on your master link clip.



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i use a pair of those adjustable pliers to squeeze mine but i still have the hand strength to do that. not sure of your situation but a small clamp should work fine

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Thanks for the response guys! I used to have dirt bikes when i was younger and used the master links with the clips on them and never had a problem with them comming off either as long as you had the fish (clip) on the correct way. My dad used to race flat track professionally way back in the 60's and has worked on motorcycles and dirt bikes all his life. He is now 76 and has altzymers and cancer now but still manages to ride (street bikes now) and has about 15 motorcycles still. Not sure how much riding he will be doing this year because he had a really rough winter with this cancer that he has now. Ever since I was young (im 39 now) he has always preached to me about that master link and fish (clip) his old saying that I still remember to this day is. " A FISH ALWAYS SWIMS WITH THE STREAM" meaning the closed end of the clip/fish always goes with the flow of the chain. I saw him today and he told me that saying once again. Gave me chills cause im always thinking about him preaching that to me and havent heard him say that for years lol. But he still remembers it

Anyone ever heard that saying? Does anyone still call that clip "a fish"? I have always called it that because of him, but I dont know if many people now a days call it that anymore.

I also asked him today when I saw him if he has ever heard of anyone tieing a wire around that clip. and he said to me that in all of his years of riding/racing he never saw anyone do that and never heard of that. He also assured me that that clip shouldnt come off on its own if its properly installed. But also said I guess theres always a possiblilty it could. He said that he would of loved to of had my bike back then when he raced enduro..

Well I took it out today for about 80mi. ride and all seems great!! Once again thanks for all the great advice guys! HAPPY RIDING!!

Eric


Just for sh**s & giggles here is a pic of my fish/clip that I took today. Yes I love to take pictures lol
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Hi Eric!
I haven't heard anyone call it a fish but I like it! You can definitely see the resemblance.
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I also asked him today when I saw him if he has ever heard of anyone tieing a wire around that clip. and he said to me that in all of his years of riding/racing he never saw anyone do that and never heard of that...

Road race guys wire the master link clip and the banjo bolts and the oil cap and drain and most everything else that could come off.

Some people are horrified when a chain isn't revited together and won't trust a clip. A clip doesn't seem to bother on or off-road racers. They're putting way more stress on a chain then a KLR ever will.

Sounds like your Dad is quite the guy!

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