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post #1 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 08:30 PM Thread Starter
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know of any mechanics who don't charge "book time?"

Hi all,

It's been fun lurking around this forum for the past few days since I found all of you. The information, advice, and friendly chatter makes me feel right at home.

I'm rapidly approaching the 500 mile service on my new 2006 KLR650. I can do some of the service myself, but I don't feel qualified to do the valve adjustment. I was quoted a price for the service, but a friend told me that dealerships and mechanics always charge "book time" for services. He said that 2 hours at $82 per hour was crazy for a service that only takes a few minutes, but that was the book time that the dealership uses for that job.

How long does the valve adjustment actually take for a good mechanic? Do you guys know of any mechanics in Central California who do not charge book time? The bike would have just over 500 miles if I took it to a mechanic somewhere in the central valley, or maybe up in the Oakland area if I visit my brother. Anyone who could show me how to do the adjustment in this area?

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post #2 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 09:27 PM
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I have never timed a valve adj. before but 2 hrs isn't far off. The problem is "most dealers" charge you for it but don't do it. Your best bet would be to hit one of the tech days out there, (Julian is great) and have some of the pros help you through it. They have tech days around there almost every month, and going over a few miles wouldn't hurt, ( a lot of dealers tell you to wait until600-1000 miles before checking the valves.
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post #3 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 09:36 PM
 
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I'm in Central Kalifornia... were exactly are you? A possible Tech Day is what you need. Where experienced folks can stand over your shoulder, lend a tool/hand or look important as you do your valves. It's really quite easy.

I skipped the 500 mile check and did it at the next interval. It won't hurt anything on a new motor to wait until your first real oil change.
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I get paid to work on other peoples bikes and if a tech is carefull and does the job right with everything clean and torqued to proper specs two hours is not out of line for a valve adj and service. IMHO
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post #5 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 10:00 PM
 
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I would agree with the others. Wait on a tech day and do it then. There will be someone with the knowledge to help you out and the cost is minimal. I may get some disagreements on this, but my thought is that a valve adjustment at 500 miles is not needed anyway in most cases. Even if its out a little it won't hurt to wait on a tech day. As for an oil change I would do that as soon as you can for sure.
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post #6 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 10:29 PM Thread Starter
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great advice, and it's amazing to see responses so quickly. Sounds like the 2 hour time is about right after all.

Please tell me a bit about Tech Days. Are they hosted by Kawasaki dealers, vendors, or individuals? Could I host one here at the resort where I work (Sequoia-Kings Canyon Nat Park)? That sounds like loads of fun. Is there a Tech Day calendar?

BTW the website for my resort is: www.mslodge.com

New owners take over in about a month and they have promised to keep the down home family atmosphere. I am the Lodge Operations Manager, so I would be in a great position to facilitate a Tech Day (or weekend) here in the spring time. If one of you might be interested in heading it up, I would be happy to speak with you.

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Doh! I just saw there is a forum for upcoming TecH Days. I'd still like information on how it all works.

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Bikerscout lives near you and TOBJ "theotherbigjoe" has had some tech days I think. He's near Petaluma.
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post #9 of 15 Old 11-08-2006, 10:51 PM
 
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Hey Trigger I checked out your website. That place looks like a lot of fun for a family vacation. I like to take my boys to places like that. We went to WV in 05 and did some whitewater rafting from a resort like yours. Also went to Rockymntn nat'l park that year and stayed at a nice place near Estes Park.
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post #10 of 15 Old 11-09-2006, 02:43 AM
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hey greg,i'm in elk grove and would be willing to help you adjust your valves. i've got the valve shim stash at my place right now(big joe and i share a big set of shims for tech days). i've been thinking about hosting a tech day sometime in january.

i've seen klr's at 600 miles with valves so far out of spec that they weren't closing. i feel it's a must do in the 500-1000 mile range.

2 hours shop rate is outrageous...i'd charge the same if i was a dealer,ya gotta keep the lights on some how. $60 flat rate for a check only and $100 flat rate for a check and shim swap(+ cost of shims) would be fair and get you some repeat business.

your place in the spring would be good too.

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