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post #1 of 6 Old 01-13-2015, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Heated gear on a 2005

I just bought a 650 and want to get it set up to run my heated vest and plan to put heated grips on it.
Through my reading there is a lot of info for 2008+ bikes for freeing up some more juice with LEDs but i haven't found anything on the first gen bikes.
Can a person swap out all the incandescent bulbs with leds in a older bike? and is there a list of the bulb types out there?
I am looking at some other headlight options to free up some power as well.
The bike will most likely sit on a battery tender during the shoulder seasons but i dont feel like draining the battery on my rides to and from work
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Not counting the headlight and instrument panel the KLR has 6 bulbs. 4 of these are signal bulbs which are only on occasionally and if you change to LED require a resistor or LED flasher to operate. That leaves the tail light and the license plate light. There are a number of options for tail/brake light LED replacements. I've had one for years that has a a flashing feature. As for the license plate light, I don't ride at night much so I removed it. I do have heated grips but don't use heated clothing but know folks who do without upgrading lights.

I'm no electrical engineer but I don't think you'll free up much juice converting everything to LED. If you decide to go that route buy quality LED's from a place like SuperBrite. I made the mistake of using some cheap LED's that I found on eBay in my Goldwing and ended up melting the back reflector in the light housings.

Bulbs are standard type. I think the tail/brake is an 1157 and the signals 1156.

There is a wiring diagram here that gives some wattages:

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I wouldn't do the turn signals because they don't stay on long enough to worry about.

The feeling of the wind in your face can lift your heart.
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As others have said, not much power saving from going LED in signals but I swap the fronts to always on for running lights + they still function as signals. The simpler way is to swap to a 3 pin flasher like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Pins-12V-C...item462f000e0c

Simple way to save headlight power on a Gen1 is to swap to HID because they draw about 1/2 the power of the stock headlight. Usually about 2.4 amps. This gives about 2.4 amps extra for loads. Dash lights and tail light will save a bit more. I've used EBay LED in the dash with good success on several bikes: like this type: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10X-T10-194-...b96e68&vxp=mtr

Some of the LED tail lights are quite good although I swapped this bike to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271520299080...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT which is marked DOT so will see how I like it. Simple enough to plug in and made a mount which fits across the original location mounted to the Happy Trails rear signal light extensions.

My Gen1's have both carried a heated jacket and grips, just, with no problem. The previous one had the middle output Electrosport stator with quartz headlight and this one the stock stator with MOSFET VRR, HID and LED's.

FWIW, LEDs which are designed for 12 volt do not require an additional resistor. People who don't understand wiring often use resistors on the signal light circuits to add enough load to make the load type flasher function. Much better to simply swap to an LED flasher.
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Have you changed any headlights to HID Norm? If so which product did you use?

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I've done a barge load of bikes to HID but usually into the H4 type bucket, single bulb H4, Honda like H4, that type. I've converted some bikes from the one piece "Stanley type" in which the bulb is permanently attached to the reflector. On only one case was the result bad and that was trying to use an HID with no bulb adapter directly into an aftermarket replacement bucket assembly for a Honda CT90 or CT110. That one turned the silver reflector to a dull grey.

I use kits off Ebay with preference to the ballasts which have lead wires rather than to plug directly into fixed sockets on the ballast. I've compared the $20.00 EBay HID kits with $200.00 specialty ones and don't see an difference. Only seen one or two ballast failures and maybe one bulb? Not certain of the bulb.

One caution of which you will be aware is to avoid HID wiring which does not use a dedicated relay circuit to provide power to the HID ballast. Some derive the power from the existing headlight wiring which is a problem because HID will draw high current (close to 20 amps in many cases) for a short time on start up. I can show some links if is helpful. I don't always buy kits because of doing various projects and using different bulbs, ballasts and wiring harness so mix and match then replace the parts used separately.
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