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post #1 of 45 Old 01-20-2009, 10:16 AM Thread Starter
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Good/Bad Studebaker doohickey

Some of you might know my situation, for the ones who don't I have a 07 klr and I replaced the doohickey with a torsion spring made by studebaker.
I since have been made aware of the situation between eaglemike and studebaker, I still have a studebaker doohickey and spring in my bike is it a good product ? According to some it is not heat treated and will fail ! I am not asking anyone to praise studebaker I just want to know if I need to tear this thing apart again and buy a doohickey from eaglemike.
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Sorry...If it were mine....I'd be going in!

Eagle Mike has an extremely good repretation for making the finest of products and the other well maybe not...but in the end it is your bike and your choice...yes I know it burns..but what is better..? Riding happily down the road or constantly wondering if I made the right choice? OR worse...something happening to your engine if you decide not to go back in and it costing you much more due to some internal damage?

Where did you purchase this thing from? Maybe they would do the upright thing and allow you to return it knowing that you hadn't or wouldn't have purchased it knowing that it was actually a knock off. Good customer relations goes a long way as well as poor customer relations! IMHO After all it isn't a thing that wouldn't matter if it did fail like a side bag or something ...this is an internal engine component!

To each their own ...but I would be going back in...sorry!

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I am not in any way arguing the fact that eaglemike does not make a superior product. Believe me I wish I had one in my bike now. haha I want to know if anyone has had a studebaker doohickey or torsion spring fail.
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Just go in and replace it with an Eagle Mike product and you wont have to worry about it failing.

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I am not convinced I need to worry about it anyway. No one has said they have had one fail.

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I would suggest then you have answered your own question then....you are happy with what you have...ride on!! No worries....

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I would suggest then you have answered your own question then....you are happy with what you have...ride on!! No worries....
HAHA Yeah thank's willy's. I have since requested ISO Certification's on these part's from Studebaker both the doohickey and the torsional spring.
I will post that info as soon as I have it. I have been researching alot of other discussion's about this doohickey issue and the repackaging and sloppy tolerances, heat treating , ect. I have talked to klr650.com. I think the writing is on the wall someone screwed someone and I really could care less all I want to know is if there are any documented failures with the studebaker doohickey's. I will post the document's from klr650.com and studebaker.
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I'm wondering...??? Are you trying to prove a point or just make yourself happy with not having to deal with redoing your DOO...?

I haven't heard of anyone's Doo actually breaking, but have heard of the lousey fit of their DOO on the shaft and incorrect spring tensions in the straight springs...nothing on the newly copied torsion spring yet..I guess time will be the judge..?

I will be shocked if you get what you have asked for. But it will be interesting to see what comes of this. Good luck..

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I am doing this because I bought something in good faith and installed it in my engine. Later on a post here I was informed that my doohickey problem might not be resolved. That definately got my attention as I am sure it would you also. I in fact just got the documentation that I was asking for and will post it first thing tomorrow morning it is on my blackberry and I cannot transfer from my corporate acct.
For the record this is not about eaglemike and his past business issues with klr650.com this is about the studebaker doohickey to whether it is a quality product or not. I intend to investigate this issue before I just tear my engine apart again and I am willing to share my finding's.
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The actual lever/doo's produced by the new guy for klr650.com/studebaker....... have a short history.

The lever you bought might be great, or might not. How well does it fit the shaft? How hard is it? (I actually know the answer to this one) I'm aware of their allegations about ISO certification, etc. As I posted elsewhere, I'm a former QC manager is the aerospace business, as well as a manufacturing engineer on several aerospace programes. The guys selling the parts don't really know what ISO certification means or doesn't mean, it's a buzz phrase. It can mean something, or nothing. Once you do the (mostly) paperwork to get ISO cerified, you might or might not have to keep all the hoops spinning. I have hundreds of springs produced by an ISO house that cannot be used.

If you were close, I'd be glad to measure your lever and tell you if it's good.

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Mike

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