1999 klr650 jetting - Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum
1987 to 2007 Wrenching & Mods For maintaining, repair or modifications of Generation 1 KLR's. 2007 and earlier.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 4 Old 03-22-2017, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
Neutral
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 8
1999 klr650 jetting

Hi all. I'm wondering what I should change my jets to, I recently moved from right about sea level, to about 3000', and have noticed my bike idles about 500 lower than normal,(doesn't stall) and when I take it up even a small mountain, it stalls when I stop, and it's a bit harder to start cold than normal as well.
Tristan Squires is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 4 Old 03-23-2017, 12:17 AM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lac La Biche Alberta Canada
Posts: 3,205
There is less AIR up there Tristan. No doubt your BODY may be feeling like it is idling a bit slow too!
The air fuel ratio is altered a bit. It will be running a bit richer than at sea level. Less air for the same amount of fuel. As a test run the bike with the airbox door off and see if the idle picks up a bit. Taking the airbox door off will lean the mixture somewhat and the idle should speed up.
Have you done carb work on motorcycles before?

JJ

It's not a Tractor....It's a LOCOMOTIVE!! Chugga Chugga
Woooo WOOOOO!!!!!
justjeff is offline  
post #3 of 4 Old 03-23-2017, 12:11 PM
OverDrive
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lander, Wyoming
Posts: 5,607
Tristan,
Pull the air silencer Snorkel out of the LH rear corner of the air cleaner box. Then drill 4, 1" diameter holes into the Straight across section of the air cleaner box (Between the Battery & the frame tube). Better to let more thin air in than to reduce fuel allowed in! These simple mods help quite a bit, to retain the sea-level performance that it did have.

Then just turn up the idle speed screw on the RH side of the carb so as the engine will idle at about 1200 +/- 100 rpm fully warmed up. A stock and standard KLR650 can operate quite well from 0-13,000 feet with only an idle speed adjustment.
Simple, Cheap & Easy.

Hey, there is a thread by that title and it has many more helpful tips! http://www.klrforum.com/1987-2007-wr...heap-easy.html

ps, To Tom Schmitz, I used "Tools" to get to the "Member List" to access the thread. It was "Simple, Painless & Easy"! Many Thanks to you and Kevin.

pdwestman
Modify at "YOUR OWN RISK"!

Still riding my 1987 KL650-A1. 85,000+ miles & counting
pdwestman is offline  
 
post #4 of 4 Old 03-23-2017, 02:55 PM
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Posts: 2,387
Like Paul said the CVK carb is "altitude compensating" for the most part and you shouldn't need to change jetting going from sea level to 3000 ft. I regularly change altitude by 4000 - 5000 ft without any noticable change in idle RPM

I like Paul's suggestion on opening the airbox up a bit though I'd strongly suggest getting a KLX jet kit from Eagle Mfg & Eng and following the instructions before doing any airbox mods. The factory jetting is severely compromised to be EPA compliant being both too lean and too rich at various throttle settings.

.....and in case you're really bored, here's my post on KLR airbox mods;


A lot of missunderstanding with airbox issues.

First, the screen. Airflow gains are not linear. Removing the screen with an otherwise stock KLR airbox will only gain you 2 cfm. The engine won't know the differance. However, with a heavily modified airbox, the gain from removing the screen is 8 cfm. Depending on what else is done to the engine, you may make more power. I doubt that you'll feel it, but a dyno will show it. Butt-dyno's can detect very small low rpm changes, but don't detect higher rpm changes very well at all. You'll likely not detect it, but that does not mean it's not there.

Comparing screen removal to other models is wrong, particularly with the newer sportbikes. With them, the screen often serves another purpose as well. Air distribution in a 4 cyl sportbike can be a real problem, particularly with "ram air". Removing the screen on them can cause very real losses, depending on the model. That does NOT apply to the KLR.

Same thing with air filters. There is only about 2 cfm differance from the best filter (UNI), to the worst (K&N). With a modified airbox, that differance grows to 9 cfm.

Here is the flow chart:

Completely stock - 64.8cfm
Same - Remove snorkle - 74cfm
Same - With UNI filter - 76.2cfm
Same - Remove screen - 78.6cfm
Same - Small "L" cut - 85.1cfm
Same - Large "L" cut, open snorkle area further - 92.4
Same - Remove door - 103.2

Alternate - UNI filter, No snorkle, With screen, No door, No "L" cut - 95.4

All at 2" of water, tested at 1 1/2" and 3" and averaged to 2"

To answer the larger question, how much air can the KLR really use?
....................
A stock KLR about 70-80cfm. With a good pipe about 75-90cfm. A modified motor about 90-100cfm. Having a bit more capacity than you you need will not hurt anything. The effects are not linear though. Going from 65cfm to 75cfm you will likely notice, but going from 75 to 85 cfm you likely won't.

Part of the confusion might be due to the effects of the carb shimming. Since that mod is for a stock needle, the snorkle removal serves not just to add air, but to lean out the top end. The stock KLR till 07 is rich on the top. ( The 08 has a smaller main jet.) Airbox mods have much more effect on top end mixture, so, with the stock needle it also helps straighten out the fuel curve.

Finally the airbox door. You've got to carefull there. You don't have clean air there. It's flowing past that door when riding. You can easily create a partial low pressure area there, depending on wind direction, and where you place your leg!

Cary"


I do not recommend removing the backfire screen (PITA) or running without the airbox door for reasons that should be obvious.

Though a KLR isn't going to have a bunch more power no matter what you do, a KLX kit combined with the snorkle-ectomy and L mod or 4 - 1" holes will have it running properly. don't bother with the little 1" foam filters if you drill the holes - they are useless.

Cheers,
Dave
DPelletier is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying a 1999 KLR650 w/ 37,000kms Gryph KLR & Other Motorcycle Related Discussion 6 05-30-2016 09:05 AM
New from Baton Rouge, 1999 KLR650 peacefuljeff Introductions 0 08-09-2015 10:09 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome