Trouble getting new tire's bead to sit correctly on rim - Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum
1987 to 2007 Wrenching & Mods For maintaining, repair or modifications of Generation 1 KLR's. 2007 and earlier.

 4Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 17 Old 03-25-2017, 04:18 PM Thread Starter
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 24
Trouble getting new tire's bead to sit correctly on rim

I just installed a new tire and am having trouble getting the bead seated correctly. When I look at the circular line on the tire that runs near the rim, I find that it's not equally distant from the rim at all points. (I assume that's how you're supposed to know if the bead is positioned correctly.) I thought it might not be a big deal, but when I ride, I can definitely feel the bike bobbing up and down a little. The only advice the Clymer manual has for a tire that won't sit on the bead correctly is "deflate, relube, retry." I did that three times, but it always seems to end up the same way when I inflate it. I'm using Windex for lube.
Beorn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 Old 03-25-2017, 05:17 PM
4th Gear
 
GoMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,261
Yes the bead lines should run parallel with the rim if the rim is not dented.

The keys to proper bead seating are a clean rim, good lubrication and air pressure.

Clean all the sticky bits from the old tire and any corrosion off the wheel with a bristle brush and soap or solvent if needed. Get mean if you have to and use a wire brush or angle grinder brush. Clean is slicker than dirty.

Lube the rim with dish soap or better Ruglyde or Murphy's oil soap or WD40. I always have WD40 with me when traveling, so I use it. Dish soap is not the slickest.

You shouldn't have to go over 50 to 60 psi to get the tire to pop in place.
DPelletier likes this.

Last edited by GoMotor; 03-25-2017 at 05:19 PM.
GoMotor is offline  
post #3 of 17 Old 03-25-2017, 06:39 PM
OverDrive
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lander, Wyoming
Posts: 5,607
Beorn,
I'll ask if you have too wide of spoke strip or tape getting trapped under the tire bead?

pdwestman
Modify at "YOUR OWN RISK"!

Still riding my 1987 KL650-A1. 85,000+ miles & counting
pdwestman is offline  
 
post #4 of 17 Old 03-25-2017, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdwestman View Post
Beorn,
I'll ask if you have too wide of spoke strip or tape getting trapped under the tire bead?
No, I don't think that's the problem. I put on new rim tape during the tire change, and I'm pretty sure it's just the slze it should be. I'll keep at eye out for this problem if I end up having to take the tire back off, though.

I wasn't aware that inflating to 60 PSI was even an option. The Clymer's recommended PSI for the front tire is 21, so I thought I was being pretty ballsy by inflating to 40 to try to get it to seat. Now that the tire's been on for a few days, do you recommend I deflate and relube before inflating toward 60, or do you think it's worth trying to inflate it more now, without taking it off the bike?
Beorn is offline  
post #5 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 12:01 AM
4th Gear
 
GoMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,261
I would deflate and press the tire away from the rim to check for sticky trash from the old tire on the rim. You may have to remove the tire to clean it GOOD.

Then use some GOOD tire lubricant as mentioned above. WD40 works good and has never caused a problem for me. Ruglyde is what many tire shops use.

The pump it up to a GOOD pressure while the lubricant is still fresh.

Don't run at high pressures, just seat the bead and back the pressure down.
Some times bouncing the tire hard on the edge of a curb all the way around helps.

GOOD luck!

Last edited by GoMotor; 03-26-2017 at 12:12 AM.
GoMotor is offline  
post #6 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 24
Thanks. I'll give it a go.
Beorn is offline  
post #7 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 24
One more thing: I have WD-40 but not Ruglyde. Would you say Ruglyde is so much better for this purpose that it would be worth getting some before I take the wheel off again?
Beorn is offline  
post #8 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 01:28 PM
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
One more thing: I have WD-40 but not Ruglyde. Would you say Ruglyde is so much better for this purpose that it would be worth getting some before I take the wheel off again?
Heya, I'm not GoMotor, but I would say it isn't that much better no. WD-40 should do just fine really, never heard of anyone having a problem with it.
Roy88 is offline  
post #9 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 02:11 PM
4th Gear
 
GoMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,261
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy88 View Post
Heya, I'm not GoMotor, but I would say it isn't that much better no. WD-40 should do just fine really, never heard of anyone having a problem with it.
Agree with Roy88. Dish soap is better than nothing, but all the others are better than dish soap. RuGlyde or other similar brands has been use by tire shops for many years and they are all good.

I mentioned WD40 because many of us don't have a big can of RuGlyde siting around when we need it, but most of us have WR40 and it works very well.

Tire lube is a little like oil and tires themselves. Everyone has their favorite and may think it is the very best. I don't know which is the very best and don't care. As long as it works and is there when I need it, I am happy.
GoMotor is offline  
post #10 of 17 Old 03-26-2017, 03:57 PM
Lifetime Member
 
650Stew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 2,480
They're not Avon Gripster tires are they? I found them to be kind of a PITA to get the bead to seat evenly. I would actually recommend that you demount the tires and clean the Windex off really well with soapy water and reinstall. Reason being, the first time I put new tires on my KLR I used Windex, and then found that when I went to install my next set 15,000 km's later that the Windex had corroded the bead surfaces and interior of the rim! I managed to get them clean enough to seat my new tires with scotch brite pads and steel wool, but it took a couple hours of elbow grease to do it. I would never ever use Windex again!

650Stew is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
front rim and tire joseaventurero 2008+ KLR650 Wrenching & Mod Questions 1 11-17-2014 08:24 AM
new tire bead won't seat BigRed KLR & Other Motorcycle Related Discussion 22 09-04-2014 10:50 AM
Easy way to break a bead PA_KLR How To's & Tech Guides 5 04-24-2011 09:34 PM
Stop and Go tire Bead Breaker Garyp138 1987 to 2007 Wrenching & Mods 1 08-03-2008 02:19 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome