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post #1 of 12 Old 07-16-2018, 08:18 AM Thread Starter
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RattleCanning my Rims and it peeled RIGHT OFF!!!

So I RattleCanned my '03 KLR650 Rims a beautiful Satin Black only to have the paint peel off easier 'n a hooker's shirt on Saturday night. NO, REALLY! If I cut/break the paint surface I can grab aholta the paint and it pulls right the ____ off like a piece of masking tape... MAJOR BUMMER! I worked real hard on those frikkin' things!
SO! What did I learn today BoysNGirls??? 'Sounds like a Surface Prep issue more 'n a Paint issue to me, at least after some additional research (once I came out of my depression).

Biggest mistake was several-fold methinks:
1. Surface not sanded past ALL oxidation (I believe Rims shoulda been brightNshiny metal after the sanding).
2. Surface was sanded several days prior to 1st Primer application. Just before Self-Etch Primer 1st coat I swiped with acetone and blew with compressed air, however, leaving aluminum exposed for more n a day or two allows oxidation to come back quickly.
3. Primer not sanded.
4. Surface prepped final with Acetone wipedown that left the slightest haze as it dried quickly in the sun???

Non-issues:
A) 4 light coats Self-Etching Primer. B) 4 light coats Rustoleum Gloss Black. C) 5 light coats Rustoleum Satin Finish. D) Temp was 100 and Humidity 30% (within guidelines of Rustoleum).

So, what now?
'Could Anodize? 'Bet I gotta de- and re-spoke the Rims... THAT'S A BIG "NO-CAN-DO!"
Epoxy? Same as above I bet, prep requires Rims devoid of anything but holes.
Or Try, Try, Try again?

I would love suggestions to avoid the same thing in the future painting of the Rims if anyone has some Pro-type advice for apparently a rank-a$$-amateur (especially along the lines of Primer). Many thanks from the Noob!
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{ chirp chirp }... okaaaaaaaaaay, then how 'bout this? Where can I buy Black Rims for my '03 KLR? Looks like I have to dis- and re-assemble Rims to get them properly covered in black via PowderCoat and that's a ROYAL PAIN! I'm familiar with Excel and Sun and they are NOT cheap. The Rims still have to be built too! I'd love to be able to buy some black 'off-the-shelf' rims for this Bike... Thx!
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Unless you get OEM black rims or buy black anodized rims and build your wheels, whatever you do is going to look like shit on a stick. That's just the way it is. Paint doesn't stick to aluminum without proper prep and the right paint, baked. No matter what you do, you're going to have to tear the wheels down and build them back up again to do it right.

Woodys will build you a pair of wheels on your hubs starting at $720 and they will be right and look good.

If you do anything except the expensive route (OEM or aftermarket anodized) it will look like shit on a stick.

Probably not what you wanted to hear. \_(ツ)_/
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Not what I wanted to hear at all! So why am I laughing my butt off?! That was a pretty funny post. The truth will “set you free“, but it stings like a bee sometimes! It’s funny how many people don’t want to hear it too…

I was beginning to discover the same as I perused the Internet a little deeper. I even looked to YouTube and lacing rims; only way to do it right that way would be to take them all the way down, run the rims over to the powder coater, and then re-lace ‘em when it all comes back… and likely with new spokes and nipples and oh yeah the rims will have to be trued oh boy!!
WHEW!!! Pooped just writing that!

Seems like better pricing and ‘comes recommended’... I’ll reach out and tell ‘em you sent me. Going it alone this rim thing was quite daunting let me tell you… Many thanks!
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And then after you get your rims painted or coated you need to be super careful everytime you change tires as scratches will show up big time....

Can you put a pair of 2012+ KLR wheels on there? They are factory black...

My favourite GenII-KLR colour combo is the 2011 orange - last year for shiny rims!

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Can you put a pair of 2012+ KLR wheels on there? They are factory black...
My favourite GenII-KLR colour combo is the 2011 orange - last year for shiny rims!

FRIKKIN' GENIUS IDEAR!!! I'll bet it's a Fugly price but definitely worth a shot! I'm willing to try ANYTHING versus painting those again; that did not turn out well at all (and it wadn't my first rodeo none neither...GGRRRRR!!!).

I'm a Tennis-er too, and my Racquet/Bag/Gear is Black and Orange (the new Orange) and I love it. Sure, people expect me to be awesome at tennis but I ain't. But I look better 'n the guy with walking shoes, cutoffs and a ratty t-shirt and a grocery bag for his gear!!!
I TTHHOOOOOOOUGHT about my KLR going Black and Orange (via TruckBedLiner already on the the body panels/tank), then thought about Orange accents/pinstripes/etc, then shied away and decided on Black. I figured I'm not an artist and this ain't no show bike. Maybe next time; awesome color scheme though. That cobalt blue'd also be an awesome color against black.

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Don't get hasty - when I said "Can you" I meant it - I don't know if you can - if they are compatible. Lots of difference from Gen 1 to Gen 2 and I don't know if this is even possible. Research!

hmm: magic 8-ball (google) says yes
"klr gen 1 vs gen 2 wheels" in google
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... magic8ball... AND I THOUGHT I WAS OLD!!!
Research is my middle name!
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... magic8ball... AND I THOUGHT I WAS OLD!!!
Not old, just well-educated.
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hmm: magic 8-ball (google) says yes
"klr gen 1 vs gen 2 wheels" in google
Pretty ugly pricing on KawOEMRims off '12 KLR (black); over $750 EACH!!!
I'm going to POUND the WORLD KLR Forums to see if someone'll sell me therir's 'cause they wanted pink rims or something...
What a ROYAL PAIN!

DON'T PAINT YOUR OWN RIMS YA'LL!!!

wwweeelllll, unless your a Powder-Coater.
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