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post #1 of 23 Old 08-02-2018, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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Relay Question... Easy but hard???

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You were wanting to axe a kestion?

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Dunno what you're doing, but I'd do it this way.



A good place to mount a relay that also has ready access to a terminated brown wire is down by the horn. There is also handy access to a couple of frame grounding points.

The positive side of the horn is a brown wire, so it is always hot when the key is on. The horn is activated by completing the ground circuit through the horn switch. It is easy to tap off of the horn terminal, so you don't have to cut into a wire to get to the 'switched-power' circuit.
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I overkill stuff so I'd add one more 2 amp (or so) fuse where I tapped into the "key on" hot before the switch. That way if something shorts in the new wiring, the factory wiring should still stay hot and not blow the factory fuse to whatever you tap into. Wouldn't want to cause the lights to go out a night because your add on wiring shorted

Also just a note for the new guys: The relay ground could be close to the relay and doesn't need to be at the same place as the load ground.

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Hey Tom,
You know about Fritzing Fritzing?

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No, hadn't heard of that one. I play around with some Seed Studio stuff. I got my pocket oscilloscope from them.

It was real handy when I was looking at the ignition stuff, the low tension side of the coil and the exciter coil output.

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So does KLRForum have AdTracker?
Are you guys looking at algorithms???
And how'd you get the photo I CAN'T POST?!?!
Checked out FritzFritz too; I can't even understand how to Navigate the dang Site!!!

Yes, I had a Relay Q and finally hit up YT to discover the same as presented above and THANK YOU.

I was a bit lost on the Relay Red/Blk In and my Q was towards powering the Relay and ALSO Switching it and you guys covered that. The YT Vid also helped me 'connect the dots' by understanding my UNnumbered Relay (but wires already connected). I put it on a meter to figure out the basics since I just wasn't clear that the Relay is Powered AAAAAND SWITCHED!

I'll add Fuses on 'Extras' (Charging Station, Fogs, Fan Switch) so if MY work goes South, the whole Bike won't shut down. One YTuber said we 'should' add a fuse in the PowerLine FROM the Relay (to LoadDevice) as well as TO the Relay. He said most don't do it but they are supposed to. It sounded more like a PartyFoul than a DeathSentence call, so I'll opt out of those. I'll fuse the Switch AND the Relay as suggested.

I'd figured out to hover near the horn, and that Euro-HeadLight + and - Terminal (unused) is there, too. Also like the idea of easier splices, etc at Horn area. And there are plenty o' places to add Relays, etc for a more
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I think one-a you said that, while not necessarily suggested, a Fan Switch added would NOT need a Relay? I'm thinking to Power my 2nd Switch with the + and - IN, and the + out would splice into the + wire of the Fan... could it be that easy? Yes, I likely won't benefit from the FanSwitch so much but here in PHX, we liken them to a SecurityBlankie... it just makes me feel better. And if it's THAT EASY, WELLLLL!!!
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So does KLRForum have AdTracker?
Are you guys looking at algorithms???
And how'd you get the photo I CAN'T POST?!?!...
I'm a moderator, so I can edit your posts. Nothing showed up in a normal view, but I knew you hadda have something in there that wasn't working. I used the edit feature to look at what you had posted, which was an imgur URL embedded in URL and IMG tags.

Problem is, that dog won't hunt, plus your imgur URL did not have a '.jpg' ending, meaning that the URL was not directing the forum to an image file. That dog won't even get off the porch.

What I did was I went to the imgur URL, saw the picture, right clicked and selected "Open image in a new tab", which gave me the picture and a URL with a '.jpg' ending.

I put that URL in my post with the "Insert image" tool and some fella named Bob claimed he was your dad's brother and there ya go.

Simple, really, especially when you're a good looking guy with a groovy personality. Describes me to a "T"; I'm just a warm, caring human being. The rumors about me being a cranky sumbitch are only mostly true.

I'm supposed to be doing some real work, so I'll get back to you later with the how and why of a fan switch unless @Damocles comes along and does it first. But, yes, you don't need a relay on that because the stock circuit has a relay in it. You just put the switch from the ground side of the relay's coil to ground. Draws only milliamps.
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......I'm thinking to Power my 2nd Switch with the + and - IN, and the + out would splice into the + wire of the Fan... could it be that easy? ..........
Hey you lost me a few electrons ago but if you understand, any part of, what you just said,,,, it could be "that easy"


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I'm a moderator, so I can edit your posts. Nothing showed up in a normal view, but I knew you hadda have something in there that wasn't working. I used the edit feature to look at what you had posted, which was an imgur URL embedded in URL and IMG tags.

Problem is, that dog won't hunt, plus your imgur URL did not have a '.jpg' ending, meaning that the URL was not directing the forum to an image file. That dog won't even get off the porch.

What I did was I went to the imgur URL, saw the picture, right clicked and selected "Open image in a new tab", which gave me the picture and a URL with a '.jpg' ending.

I put that URL in my post with the "Insert image" tool and some fella named Bob claimed he was your dad's brother and there ya go.

Simple, really, especially when you're a good looking guy with a groovy personality. Describes me to a "T"; I'm just a warm, caring human being. The rumors about me be a cranky sumbitch are only mostly true.

I'm supposed to be doing some real work, so I'll get back to you later with the how and why of a fan switch unless @Damocles comes along and does it first. But, yes, you don't need a relay on that because the stock circuit has a relay in it. You just put the switch from a brown wire to the relay trigger. Draws only milliamps.
You should have said Russian hackers got into his PC and stole the image.

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