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post #1 of 13 Old 04-01-2019, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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Help removing lowering kit!

Guys, newbie here and I have an 06 KLR. The previous owner put a 3” lowering kit on and lowered the front by sliding the forks up in the trees. I just removed the lowering links and replaced them with the factory links. I loosened the trees and got the forks back down to almost flush with the top of the top tree.

1st question - how much of the top of the fork should be showing over the top of the top tree? I have about a credit card thickness showing above the top of the tree.

2nd question - the bike is very tall now and doesn’t seem to sag nearly as much when I sit on the seat now than when it did when the lowering kit was on. Is that normal?

3rd question - now that the bike is back to what I assume is factory height, the kickstand seems incredibly short and the bike leans WAY over when on the stand now. It seems excessively leaning to me, but again I have nothing to compare it to. On level ground with the bike standing straight up and the stand extended, there is over 3” from the bottom of the stand to the ground. Is this normal?

Here are photos of the bike on the stand now.



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1st question - how much of the top of the fork should be showing over the top of the top tree? I have about a credit card thickness showing above the top of the tree.
That will do. Normally the end of the tube would be flush with the top of the triple tree. A millimeter more is fine.

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2nd question - the bike is very tall now and doesn’t seem to sag nearly as much when I sit on the seat now than when it did when the lowering kit was on. Is that normal?
That is normal. The lowering links increase the leverage on the spring. Makes it mushy.

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3rd question - now that the bike is back to what I assume is factory height, the kickstand seems incredibly short and the bike leans WAY over when on the stand now. It seems excessively leaning to me, but again I have nothing to compare it to. On level ground with the bike standing straight up and the stand extended, there is over 3” from the bottom of the stand to the ground. Is this normal?
I should think that a bike that was lowered by 3" would have its kickstand shortened. If it didn't it would probably fall over to the right if you looked at it hard. Measure the kickstand from the pivot to the top of the plate. @DPelletier or @pdwestman can reliably tell you the length of a stock kickstand.

My Gen 2 is rather lifted and, with the stock kickstand, leans quite a bit. I usually park it on a 2x4 when it is put away. It leans similarly to yours but doesn't fall over.

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BTW, nice bike, too. Less than 4,000 miles?

Edit: Belay that. I see you had a thread going while I was out of town.

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Thanks Tom! I’ll measure the stand tomorrow. Previous owner bought it brand new and swears he never shortened the stand. Said he should have, but never did.

Has 2275 miles on it when I bought it last week.
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Can anyone measure their stock stand on a Gen 1 bike and tell me how long theirs is?
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...Previous owner bought it brand new and swears he never shortened the stand...
Quite plausible. The lean doesn't look really extreme or precarious. Perhaps the previous owner was careful about how he parked it, or perhaps it did fall over to the right.

If it doesn't fall over now, why worry?

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1) Ditto on all Tom's comments (he's almost never wrong but don't tell him!;-) )

2) Congrats on fixing the messed up suspension - not a fan of the lowering links....the Gen1's springrate and damping is set up for a (largely mythical) 160lb rider....lowering links make that disparity much worse due to the increased leverage on the shock as Tom said.

3) unfortunately I'm building a house and my bikes are still in storage, but I can tell you that my two identical KLR's that were built 6 months apart vary in their sidestand lean angle....I think it's probably due to one of them having the stand mount bent in a bit. If you want a bit more lean angle, you may be able to bend the mount angle with a large crescent wrench but be careful not to get it too close to the swingarm or you'll gouge it when the suspension cycles....The spring pulls the Gen1 stand out (safer than the Gen2 stand set up) so play between the mount and the sidestand prongs can increase lean angle too - if that's the case, put it in a vice and squash the stand prongs until they are correct.

4) Yeah, nice bike! :-)

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My Gen 1 kickstand measures 12.25 inches from pivot center to floor and the rear rack slopes about 23-25 degrees when parked on stand.

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I'll almost bet that Dave P. has identified most of the problem.

The kickstand pivot bolt may have lost its jam nut off the back-side. (Very few ever think about IT during break-in maintenance!) Without a jam nut the pivot bolt will loosen. With a loose pivot bolt the clevis will Spread! With a spread clevis the bike will lean further.

We should put a little chain lube or 90W gear oil on that pivot once or twice a year also.

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This is my bike's lean angle.


This is what I'd prefer.


Maybe I'll fix it one day.
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