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post #1 of 26 Old 05-29-2010, 06:46 AM Thread Starter
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1st gear woes

Help! When cold, my 2004 KLR 650 will not start off in 1st gear! I usually let my bike warm up for a minute or two but when down-shifting into 1st gear to start off it jumps and cuts off. Every time! I've adjusted the clutch several times but it doesn't seem to help. I can start off in 2nd gear just fine and then down shift and it works. It just doesn't work starting out. Any suggestions, are the plates sticking? What's the fix?
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post #2 of 26 Old 05-29-2010, 06:57 AM
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Mine does this on occasion, too.. I'm not saying this is a fix, but I give the bike a touch of gas before clicking into first and it doesn't do it..

This is when the bike is cold and first ridden after sitting, right?
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Hi all, I'm new to this forum. Thanks to everyone, I'm learning a lot about my bike, a 2008.

My bike does the same thing. After sitting a few days, the first time I click it into 1st gear it jumps an stalls. I was wondering if maybe the oil choice has something to do with it?
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Hi all, I'm new to this forum. Thanks to everyone, I'm learning a lot about my bike, a 2008.

My bike does the same thing. After sitting a few days, the first time I click it into 1st gear it jumps an stalls. I was wondering if maybe the oil choice has something to do with it?
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That issue is the clutch plates sticking together and it's quite normal to see after the bike sits for a couple of days. If it really bothers you, you can push the bike by hand, with the transmission in first gear and the clutch pulled in, to bust it loose before you start. Otherwise, as Paper says, rev it up a bit before you snick it into gear.

Or, as lew has mentioned above, you may not have the lurch and stall if you go into second gear instead of first. Second gear, being a higher gear ratio, has a greater mechanical advantage and may not stall out while breaking the clutch plates loose. Try going into second, then down to first for that initial start-up.

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I simply squeeze the clutch lever several times before droping it into 1'st gear. This has been enough to free up the plates. Works on both my 09's.

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I simply squeeze the clutch lever several times before droping it into 1'st gear. This has been enough to free up the plates. Works on both my 09's.

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I tried that, but no joy. Must admit, I gave up and usually just drop into first while rolling down the driveway.

Bang! and I'm off. Sort of like a starter's pistol...


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post #7 of 26 Old 05-29-2010, 04:49 PM
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Rev it to 6 grand and stomp the shifter?

We don't need no stinkin' clutch.


(Disclaimer: Don't ever, ever, EVER do that!!!!!)

PS. Troop is right. Work the cable a few times, and also if needed hit 2nd, then go
down to first. It's a pain in the butt sometimes, but I love the stout factory clutchpack!
It has held up to a tremendous beating and still acts new.

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Let it warm up a bit more and it should be fine.

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Thanks for all the advice. Nice to know it's normal to the KLR.

Can't wait too get out there and try the 6 grand technique....LOL
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Thanks Guys, but I'm looking for something of a permanent fix. This is not normal. The clutch plates must be sticking together. What about a rubber hammer? Would switching to a synthetic oil solve this? Make it worse? Better?
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