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post #1 of 11 Old 11-04-2011, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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Just this week, my blue dash light started NOT coming on when the brights were one. Then it started working again. Now its sporadic. When the brights are on, the blue light may or may not decide to turn on. That alone was not so troubling to me, thinking I have a bad connection or bulb in the dash, until yesterday. Now my low beam light does not turn on. Yet my high beam will work, whether or not the blue light does or not. So basically all I have now is a high beam. Is this just a bulb??? Are the two issues related??? Is this a good time to upgrade my lights??? Any suggestions on light upgrades??? THANKS ALL. Everything I know about my KLR and all the mods I've done, I owe to the guys on this forum.
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Just this week, my blue dash light started NOT coming on when the brights were one. Then it started working again. Now its sporadic. When the brights are on, the blue light may or may not decide to turn on. That alone was not so troubling to me, thinking I have a bad connection or bulb in the dash, until yesterday. Now my low beam light does not turn on. Yet my high beam will work, whether or not the blue light does or not. So basically all I have now is a high beam. Is this just a bulb??? Are the two issues related??? Is this a good time to upgrade my lights??? Any suggestions on light upgrades??? THANKS ALL. Everything I know about my KLR and all the mods I've done, I owe to the guys on this forum.

Check the handlebar switch. It's the common point for the headlights and the dash light.

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I would suggest caution on any light upgrades.

The Gen II lights are about as good as they're going to get. The H7 bulb is a good one.

The bulb holder and reflector are plastic, so don't go with a higher wattage bulb as the housing may melt from the additional heat. I could do a rant on bulbs, but won't unless you ask. I'll just say "don't go for anything 'kewl blew' or that says it will give you a huge increase in output. Don't pay more than $25 dollars for a pair of bulbs".

If you really need more light from the headlight you might consider an HID installation on the low beam. I think they run no hotter than the incandescent bulb.

HIDs take a few seconds to come on, so you probably don't want HID in the high beam.

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Just this week, my blue dash light started NOT coming on when the brights were one. Then it started working again. Now its sporadic. When the brights are on, the blue light may or may not decide to turn on. That alone was not so troubling to me, thinking I have a bad connection or bulb in the dash, until yesterday. Now my low beam light does not turn on. Yet my high beam will work, whether or not the blue light does or not. So basically all I have now is a high beam. Is this just a bulb??? Are the two issues related??? Is this a good time to upgrade my lights??? Any suggestions on light upgrades??? THANKS ALL. Everything I know about my KLR and all the mods I've done, I owe to the guys on this forum.
My lowbeam bulb burnt out at 300 kilometers. Now at 1200k my highbeam indicator light also quit for a day then started working again. These are things I will bring up to the dealer when I bring the Bike in for first service..... Wish me luck!!
I suspect your low beam bulb is burned out. I replaced mine with a standard 55w Osram from NAPA for 12$. Someone said to stay away from the Phillips brand as they dont last. Has anyone else heard this?
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I would suggest caution on any light upgrades.

The Gen II lights are about as good as they're going to get. The H7 bulb is a good one.

The bulb holder and reflector are plastic, so don't go with a higher wattage bulb as the housing may melt from the additional heat. I could do a rant on bulbs, but won't unless you ask. I'll just say "don't go for anything 'kewl blew' or that says it will give you a huge increase in output. Don't pay more than $25 dollars for a pair of bulbs".

If you really need more light from the headlight you might consider an HID installation on the low beam. I think they run no hotter than the incandescent bulb.

HIDs take a few seconds to come on, so you probably don't want HID in the high beam.

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Rant away Tom!! Maybe us Dualsport Newbies will learn something!
What about LED bulbs? Anything available there?
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OK, a bit of a rant.

Good companies that sell honest products at an honest price are Osram, Sylvania, and Philips. These are not all the brands, but what you'll find at your local auto store.

These companies all sell standard bulbs and extra bright bulbs, and some sort of blue bulb.

American lights and bulbs are controlled by FMVSS 108. That regulation spells out minimum and maximum lumens for a given bulb.

All of the offerings from these companies will fall in line with FMVSS 108.

The standard bulb will put out a good amount of light and last a long time. These will be listed as "OEM" replacement and have a name like, in the case of Sylvania, Silverstar. They ought to last about 750 hours.

The extra bright bulbs will put out the maximum allowable lumens, but at the expense of bulb life. Sylvania calls these XtraVison. They may have lives as short as 250 hours.

The really insidious crap, often sold by companies you've never heard of, are the blue bulbs. These have a blue filter on them, some more than others. The idea is to shift the color temperature into the blue range to be more like HIDs. The filter actually reduces the amount of light that is emitted and you can't see for crap with them. They are legal because they fall within the low end of the output allowed by 108. Some of the bulbs put out nearly the same amount of light as a standard bulb; this is accomplished by driving the filament to the level of an 'extra light' bulb, so their life expectancy is short. Sylvania calls theirs "Cool Blue" and these have a very light blue filter. They are driving the filaments hard to bring the light level up and the life expectancy is on par with XtraVisions.

Some of the blue bulbs are really horrendous, with dark blue coatings. These are known as the "kewl blew" bulbs and find their way onto drifter wanna-be Civics with fart can exhausts.

I recommend Daniel Stern as a good source for authoritative information on lighting. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ He's supplied me with quality stuff in the past and really knows his stuff.

In short, buy a quality standard bulb. You'll get good light and long life out of them.

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FYI - I have noticed my bright light switch getting stubern if I don't function it after it gets wet.

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I've ordered new bulbs (low and high). I've ordered and received the little bulb for the dash light. Just in case it is bad, when I have it apart I will want to address that. But is suspect a contact issue in the switch or maybe even in the dash causing the high beam dash light to intermittently work. We'll see when I get it apart. Or maybe we won't see, and I have an unexplainable gremlin.
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anyone have bulb maufacturers and #'s for them as well. my low beam just burned out so im going to replace both high and low beam but before i tear down i want replacements in hand.
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Sylvania, Osram, Philips.

The bulbs number is H7.

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