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post #1 of 11 Old 10-31-2012, 08:33 PM Thread Starter
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Seat Concepts - A Week Later

A few days ago I told you-all about my adventures in the sand at Gold Gulch. That's the 1st real ride I've had since installing the Seat Concepts kit - about 30 miles each way plus 12 or 14 miles in sand etc.

The seat is far more comfortable than the stock one, but it still has a small tilt down toward the tank. For a few miles I felt like I was sliding down and the pressure "burned" the inside of my thighs and my butt.

After a few miles, either I adapted or the seat did and all was well, but I'm somewhat concerned about a longer ride - I'm planning on a 300 mile round trip in the near future, so I've come up with an idea and tomorrow will stick my neck out a bit.......



The foam in the seat is very tough and resilient and I think that trying to re-shape the contoured top of it might be....um...counterproductive, not to mention trying to make the upholstery adapt to the new lines.

I think that if I take a thin, tapered slice out of the Bottom of the foam it would be easier to do and easier to cover up any glitches. In the picture I've drawn a curved line - slightly exaggerated to make the point - that would take the most foam right under my butt.

My comfortable riding position is with my butt backed right up against the end of the driver's position, so taking the material there would - I think - get rid of that slight downward taper and would - I think - settle my butt more comfortably in that low spot.

Not certain yet how much will be removed, but I doubt more than ½" to 1" - a small step at a time. There will still be plenty of foam for comfort and support when done. If it doesn't work, it'll be easy to add some back.

I've talked to a local upholster-er who's done a lot of work on ATV seats - this is really ATV country - and he's going to work with me on it so that I don't wind up with a butcher job.

When the cutting is done the upper contours will only be slightly modified and in such a way that I think that the appearance will be maintained by pulling the slack down snugly and tacking it into place.

I'll keep ya'll posted on developments............Lar.
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post #2 of 11 Old 10-31-2012, 08:48 PM
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Biglar,
I did exactly what you are describing to my Seat Concepts seat.
I removed foam at the rear of the rider's seating position to make the seating surface level with the ground. I actually used a carpenter's bubble level to check my work. The final result was way more comfortable, no more sliding to the front of the seat and into the fuel tank.
I do not know why all, most, saddle makers insist on tilting the riding surface of the seat forward causing the rider/passenger to slide toward the fuel tank.
Good luck with your project.
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What a timely post. I've had mine for about a year. Mine slopes as well. I've told myself I can deal with it, but I'm finally ready to try and fix it. Today I bought a wire wheel and rough sand paper.
My plan is to make a wedge. Start about 1/3 of the way back and go from nothing to about 1/2" deep, stopping about 2/3 back. I don't plan to touch the sides.
I hope to level it out and make it cup my butt at the same.
That's the game plan anyway.
If any of you don't think that will work or if you have any other idea's LMK. The seat is removed and I plan to tear into ASAP.

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post #4 of 11 Old 11-01-2012, 09:14 PM
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I had my original seat done by a auto upolstry shop similar to that.
Not quite level but close. I think more level would have been better for me as well.

Here's my mod FWIW: http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm
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I'm done and it feels great. I took a couple pics I'll post later. It was easy too!

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I had my original seat done by a auto upolstry shop similar to that.
Not quite level but close. I think more level would have been better for me as well.

Here's my mod FWIW: http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm
( Scroll down to the seat section. )
Your seat looks good, but how is it for butt support ??

I Really like the windshield you built. I wish I'd seen those pictures sooner. How have the wind wings worked out ?? Any problem with stress cracks ?? My present setup protects me pretty well from headwinds but does nothing for crosswinds and I get buffeted quite a bit. Also, the wind - even from dead ahead doesn't get my chest but gets each shoulder and arm pretty good.

I tried wearing a heavy leather jacket today and it helped that a lot. The education continues.
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I'm done and it feels great. I took a couple pics I'll post later. It was easy too!
I'm looking forward to seeing those pictures. I went to upholstery guy this afternoon to show him the Seat Concepts product - he'd only seen the stock seat when I spoke with him earlier. We made an app't for next Tues. morning and he seems like he's really looking forward to digging in to it.
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If it were my $ I'd get the SC seat instead, OR just open yours up and try and fix/fab it up yourself. I bet you'll put some $ into the stocker and you still won't have the good foam SC uses. Just my opinion though.

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Here ya go. I used the attachment not on the drill.




The key is to test it, retest, and test again to get it to suit your butt. I thought I was done in the above pics but wasn't totally happy so I removed some more towards the front (where its shallow) for my ishium bones to sit down in and then I feathered it out more. Now the seat feels more like a glove.
The nice thing is the cover goes back on real easy since it has a memory to it.
I can't wait to take'r for a spin!

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Your seat looks good, but how is it for butt support ??

I Really like the windshield you built. I wish I'd seen those pictures sooner. How have the wind wings worked out ?? Any problem with stress cracks ?? My present setup protects me pretty well from headwinds but does nothing for crosswinds and I get buffeted quite a bit. Also, the wind - even from dead ahead doesn't get my chest but gets each shoulder and arm pretty good.

I tried wearing a heavy leather jacket today and it helped that a lot. The education continues.
The support is good. I don't ride without the outside pad, I made, unless I get caught in the rain. The pad does correct the "very slight" tilt forward the modified seat still has. ( I wish I had them take a little more off the back part of the seat.)
I really like the combination of the flatter modified seat and the extra padding from the outer pad I made. The combination is very comfortable on long rides.

The wind screen and outer wings combination works good. I still get wind, but it’s more “defused”, and no more hard blast on my face and helmet. Side winds and turbulence from trucks do get through, but not really objectionable.
I don’t know who manufactured the main screen. I’ve had that kicking around for a long time. Glad to be able to put it to use, after hanging onto it, all this time.

Whole project falls into the KLR creed. “Do it cheap and do it your self” God knows, motorcycle after market stuff costs a lot.

I find that my upper arms are prone to getting aching after a while in cooler weather.
A jacket with good upper arm padding and wind blockage does help. My Gerbing heated jacket has good arm heat. Can’t use that on the KLR. Not wired for heated clothing.
Wish some one could come up with how much excess current the KLR has for extra electrical stuff.

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Power socket, L.E.D. Battery Indicator, Camera bag holder
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