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post #1 of 16 Old 01-09-2013, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Q's for you oil consuming KLR's

What is the official acceptable level of oil drinking ?

I know i hear over and over how after 09 they changed pistons and rings wich solved the issue ..but now my bike a '12 with 7500 miles has started drinking oil like i do beer ..

My buddy and i just tried to do the 1000 mile/24 hour IBA last week both on Klr 's mine the '12 his a '11 both with almost same miles his has 8k ..

by 700 mile mark my buddy had used almost 3/4 quart i had used almost 1/2 quart with a GPS average of 60 mph . running casrol synthetic 10w-40 bike oil ..

For a bike i bought new in July this seems wrong .. Not even my harley drank oil like this .

Im a bike tech and cant get a straight answer or same answer from anyone ..

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What is the official acceptable level of oil drinking ?

I know i hear over and over how after 09 they changed pistons and rings wich solved the issue ..but now my bike a '12 with 7500 miles has started drinking oil like i do beer ..

My buddy and i just tried to do the 1000 mile/24 hour IBA last week both on Klr 's mine the '12 his a '11 both with almost same miles his has 8k ..

by 700 mile mark my buddy had used almost 3/4 quart i had used almost 1/2 quart with a GPS average of 60 mph . running casrol synthetic 10w-40 bike oil ..

For a bike i bought new in July this seems wrong .. Not even my harley drank oil like this .

Im a bike tech and cant get a straight answer or same answer from anyone ..

The motor industry standard is < 1qt per 1K miles is acceptable usage! That's been the standard for 50 plus years. Ridiculous in this day and age.

A Kawasaki dealer will perform an oil usage test if the bike is still under warranty. I've read mixed results of a warrany repair actually solving the oil consumption in the Gen 2s. A 685 kit will though.

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thats silly having to add 1.5 oil changes before scheduled 3k oil change ! and if i was using factory dunlops id be changing tires too that gets expensive fast ..

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OK....you said you averaged 60 MPH which means you were well over that for a good portion of the time for the 700miles. The KLR will not tolerate that sort of punishment for that long without issues, sorry to say. Especially the newer version machines. It will after you install the 685 kit as the parts are a better quality and fit compared to the stock workmanship.....if you find a local shop to do the work slowly for you, boring that is.
KLRs hate to run above the 5500RPM range, they will but will suffer. They prefer the 4500-5000 range and will last forever if kept to that range from what I have seen.
The steelership specs for oil consumption are pure bogus imho.....an engine shouldn't use that sort of oil in 1000miles unless flogged an inch from it's life. I don't care who you are.....there is no way that is right. I have worked on, modified and owned all sorts of engines from 1947 to 2005 and none of them burnt oil at that rate, never!
But I'm sure someone will disagree with my findings as usual....???

I would install the 685 kit and no other as it has the longest production run and is concidered bulletproof as big bore kits go. I had one for 5 years without an issue. In the end it was my stupidity that allowed dirty air to get past the aircleaner that screwed it up or I would still be running with it. It was perfect!

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i have a 685 kit back ordered for the 2001 but because my cams fried due to lack of oil in journals and piston hit valves ..causing good damage to piston .

we were riding in sub freezing temps for 2 days chasing snow and ice whole way im hoping the cold air keeping engine cold was the cause . we didnt go over 70 mph entire trip just too cold and slick with the snow . with the k60s at 38 psi i was running at 5000 rpm most of the time between 4th and 5th gear pulling the big hills . thats not over revving the machine by any means .

im hoping the cold was major cause of it .. up to this point it has never used this much oil . and one would think 7500 miles and rings would still be tight ..but as dark as my oil is at 1200 miles now tells me we get alot of carbon blow by ..

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I know this will start an oil thread but what oil?

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Sorry just reread and got the answer....DOH!!!

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I would wait for the warmer weather or block off the rad to keep the heat in it and see what it does when the engine temps are up near the centre of the heat gauge. IF they still drink, sorry but I bet there are 2 kits in your futures. I have found that once they start to drink it usually doesn't stop. BUT, this may be different seeing as how cold the outside temps were. I don't know but maybe have a peek at the cam bearings just to have a peek? If the temps never got warm hopefully the oil flow wasn't compramised? Not sure if it could have been but why not check to rule any further issues out?
I am a person who looks for the worst and happily accepts the lesser after having a peek.
Really black oil as you know means it's getting contaminated by something.....so better to figure out why than let it slide just to save a few hours of inspection time....IMHO.

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You can always sample your engine oil and see exactly what is going on inside the engine, I have an '09 that drinks oil and nothing on the samples has shown abnormal wear or coolant dilution. I sample mine at every oil change.

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I know i hear over and over how after 09 they changed pistons and rings wich solved the issue ..but now my bike a '12 with 7500 miles has started drinking oil like i do beer ..
The cheapest solution is probably to drink more beer.
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