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post #1 of 13 Old 02-13-2013, 07:58 AM Thread Starter
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Motech or Givi

I'm looking at getting a set of crash bars for my 2011 KLR. What do you think would be best Motech or Givi? Givi's are $50 less but don't seem to protect as much as the Motech's.
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post #2 of 13 Old 02-13-2013, 09:56 AM
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Think you answered your own question. $50 bucks doesn't go far when you have to buy motorcycle parts.

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post #3 of 13 Old 02-13-2013, 05:32 PM
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i just bought a set of motech for a 2011. can't wait till i get them on the bike
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post #4 of 13 Old 02-15-2013, 09:20 PM
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i really like the givi stuff, have had on BMW before and it was quality
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post #5 of 13 Old 02-16-2013, 10:39 AM
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You guys are going to confuse the OP.

My Kaw Barn - 2004 KLR, 2006 Concours (sold), 1997 Bayou 400.

"It's a friggen motorcycle, it's not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you shit your pants every now and then. "

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9PpwD2tok

Youtube video comparing Motech & Givi.

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post #7 of 13 Old 03-25-2013, 09:23 AM
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I feel like that video isn't exactly fair, unless all he was trying to do is explain the cost differences. I feel like the reviewer (a retailer) is taking a simple look without understanding engineering.

If you compare the Givi and Motec bars side by side, it's probably fair to say that due to geometry, the Givi bars, with their thinner metal, might actually still be stronger in some respects to the Motec bars.

The Motec bars have a tall loop that covers the whole fairing. The Givi bars have a smaller loop that protrudes slightly. In terms of branch/brush deflection, the Motec bars win in that respect, but I'd bet the Givi bars would actually be better in terms of tip-over or crash protection. The reviewer doesn't differentiate.

The same physics goes into bridge building. If you have a small span of bridge, you can use smaller I-beams than if you have a longer bridge. The loops on the Motec bars seem twice as long as the Givi bars. I can see why the'd need (not want) to use thicker metal. The forces of leverage will cause longer loops like that to be bent more easily, in a fall.

Granted, I have neither set, nor the urge to do some sort of destructive A/B test, but I haven't yet found a single person who's said "I bent my Givi bars", but I have found a thread with a picture of bent Motec bars (just that upper loop part!), and of course there's the complaints about the resonance at a certain RPM, I'm sure from the longer loop ringing like a tuning fork.
(which I believe could be resolved if anyone was brave enough to drill their Motec bars somewhere, to line them with liquid damping material?)
There's a lot of parallels to my former life in loudspeaker design - resonance increases (and should increase at a higher RPM) as [functional] mass decreases, so the lack of it in the Givi bars actually indicates they may be stronger in an actual, applied sense.

I do believe the powder coating on the Motec bars looks superior, I can understand why they cost more as a sum of the increased materials cost alone, but I'm just saying I think this video is a bit of an unfair oversimplification. Guy might as well have said "One bar set is cheap, the other one is less cheap." and stopped talking.
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I have installed a few sets of SWMotechs and have heard no bad comments about them from their owners. I have seen the results from offs and they have protected the bike well.

If you have a choice there always will be someone saying their choice is better than the one you decided upon.....always!

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Re: Motech or Givi

Ha, true for sure.

Also, there seems to be five people with the motec bars for every one person with the Givis, so I'm not negatively dinging the motecs because I found one pic of them bent...

Plus your more serious off-roaders I could see preferring the motecs and being more inclined to find themselves in scenarios that could damage them, so I'm just trying to be fair to both in consideration.

I'd love to see how the givi bars actually hold up in a tip over, rather than make the assumptions that this video would lead people to make.

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i love my sw motechs fantastic fit and darnn strong mine was hung upside down after on a single track trail heading down a steep grade and front tire rolled off the rim ..she slid a long ways and stopped on a sharp rock upside down ..she saved the whole bike not scratch or dent on tank or plastics just my bar ends ..

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