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post #1 of 18 Old 02-26-2013, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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need help .bike can crank but cannot start

Brothers,
Need help..my klr 2008 model..
my bike can crank but cannot start..
1.already check the plug to ground ..no spark from the plug.
2.check safety swicth ok.
3.check the stand switch ok.
4.already replaced new plug and bettery.
5. checked clutch switch.
..what others????
i personally suspect muy cdi./or high tention coil.need others opinion.

tq

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post #2 of 18 Old 02-27-2013, 09:10 AM
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I have no doubt you are going to get some wise old salt to help you from our fine site in short order. Until that happens you might Google "Testing klr 650 cdi box". Best of luck Friend.
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I have no doubt you are going to get some wise old salt to help you from our fine site in short order. Until that happens you might Google "Testing klr 650 cdi box". Best of luck Friend.
Except . . . not to be overly technical, but . . . 2008 and later don't have no stinkin' CDI box!

Instead, Generation 2 KLR650's have FTBI ("Fully-Transistorized Breakerless Ignition") systems.

Generation 1 KLR650 ignitions (CDI) are powered by alternating current from the stator exciter coil; Generation 2 KLR650 ignitions are powered by 12 VDC battery voltage. The sparks occur, respectively, from capacitive and from inductive discharge circuitry.

Still, could be the "igniter."

Ignition coils seldom go bad, in either case. I'd look for a good igniter to substitute, although doubtless a trouble-shooting procedure exists in the service manual.
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Lol

See I told you, wise old salt on the Job. I need to send Kawasaki an email telling them how stupid they are for still listing the CDI as the type of ignition on their website for the KLR 650.
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Search "08 KLR electrical problem" There is a whole thread on the same type of problems. The 08 had/ has a problem with the wiring harness.
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See I told you, wise old salt on the Job. I need to send Kawasaki an email telling them how stupid they are for still listing the CDI as the type of ignition on their website for the KLR 650.
Yes, the Kawasaki website declares the ignition as, "Electric CDI" for 2013 models.

The same specification page says this about the brakes:
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Front brakes / rear brakes Single 280mm petal-type disc, two-piston caliper / Single 240mm disc, single-piston caliper
Now, all you Generation 2 KLR650 riders; go out and COUNT the pistons on your rear brake caliper!

Generation 2s have dual-piston rear brake calipers, in point of fact; Kawasaki marketing copywriters haven't become aware of this change in six inclusive model years.

Here's the link to Kawasaki's KLR650 specification sheet:

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/pro...scid=14&id=702
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Yes, the Kawasaki website declares the ignition as, "Electric CDI" for 2013 models.

The same specification page says this about the brakes:Now, all you Generation 2 KLR650 riders; go out and COUNT the pistons on your rear brake caliper!

Generation 2s have dual-piston rear brake calipers, in point of fact; Kawasaki marketing copywriters haven't become aware of this change in six inclusive model years.

Here's the link to Kawasaki's KLR650 specification sheet:

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/pro...scid=14&id=702
I feel like I am talking with Norm from Cheers here. Why not spend this much effort answering the OP's question? You seem to be more focused on the mental masterbation of the post. LOL.....he thinks his black box thingy does not work and wants to test it to see if he can make his sickle go vroom.....Justjeff is the man do a search and best of luck.
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I feel like I am talking with Norm from Cheers here. Why not spend this much effort answering the OP's question?
Hey, I really appreciate your literary criticism, moriver!

I nominate you for MODERATOR, if you're not one already!

As to helping the OP, I offered the suggestion to substitute a working IGNITER, and mentioned a trouble-shooting procedure for that component as constructively-intended efforts to help solve the problem (i.e., no spark) outlined.

From my post above:
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Ignition coils seldom go bad, in either case. I'd look for a good igniter to substitute, although doubtless a trouble-shooting procedure exists in the service manual.
Wish I could offer more effective suggestions, but--aside from the obvious, and given the long-distance diagnosis problem, that's about my best effort, moriver.


Please share your own, suggestions; thanks!

Again, regrets if my posts fail your criteria; I shall look to your posts for examples I may follow.

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You already knew the difference between CDI (capacitive discharge ignition) and FTBI (inductive discharge ignition), right, moriver? I regret any inconvenience caused you by my pointing out the differences between Generation 1 and Generation 2 ignitions.

Further, perhaps I should not have mentioned an additional error (to the one you pointed out, "Electric CDI" ignition) in the Kawasaki KLR650 specifications ("single piston rear brake caliper"). No offense intended!

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To the original poster......check for a rub spot under the tank towards the right side of the wiring harness. There was a known issue creating just this issue.

Hope this helps....

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