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post #1 of 26 Old 03-24-2013, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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crash bar engine guard conflict

Since I'm paranoid my beginner self is going to lay this bike down somewhere, I've been looking into crash bars for the bike, and I'm hoping I'll be able to mount a set without jumping through too many hoops.
Mainly I've been looking into the Happy Trails PD set, SW Motec, or Givi bars. (let me know if you know of others, please)

As I mentioned, this bike already has some nice upgrades from the former owner. An aluminum engine guard is one of those items, shown here:


My concern is that it seems to rise pretty high - a nice feature for protection, but I've been looking into how these bars mount, and it seems to rise up higher than two bolts that seem to be used for all of these bars to mount to.

You can see the two engine-mount bolts that this guard also uses (as do the crash bar sets) to mount, from the side view:


Does anyone know what brand engine guard this is so I might be able to do some research on bar compatibility?

Or, if you know, skip that middleman and comment on whether you know of a bar set that will (or won't) work with a guard like this?

I'm not completely averse to cutting this guard in some way to facilitate a set of bars, either... but I'd rather not if I didn't have to.

Help is appreciated, thanks!
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Kinda sorta looks like the bash plate here (which the owner trimmed down 1/2"):

http://www.klr650.net/forums/showthr...126#post905126

If so, maybe a little trim of the top is all it would need? At least for a set of Givi bars. I think all three sets mount differently though.

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FWIW: Here's a link to my install of the SW Motech bars on my 2011 KLR...
http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm (Scroll to last item on the page, and open the pdf file.)

There's a couple of pix's that show the crash bars there.

NOTE: The engine guard shown is one I made. I had to trim the sides of it so it would fit between the crash bars. I made the skid plate first, then bought and installed the crash bars after that.

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Your skid plate is a JNS plate. They make one that is Givi compatible and one that is SW-Motech compatible; I don't know how to tell the difference by looking at one.

It won't work with HT nerf bars.

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If you load a KLR up with enough stuff it will even try to tip you over as you mount up and that great long side stand gives you the whoops a daisy as the rear suspension sags.

So - yes - engine guards are a definite good piece of kit. You will save breaking the side fairings and / or pranging the radiator. $$ to fix at minimum and could mean a disabled bike a long walk or haul to home.

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I've been trying to find photos of the frame attachment points for the Givi and Motec bars, I found an installation thread on another forum where someone posted their installation shots, and looks like the Motec bars mount a bit higher than the Givi bars, maybe high enough to clear.

If not, I could trim the plate down, I suppose.

Funny that you mention the suspension sag - I'm 5'7", and notice that when I sit on it, I can get it to droop far enough that the bike leans to the other side, pushed over by the stock kickstand. I'm planning on lowering the bike maybe an inch or so, using some lowering links that I got with the bike (not sure if they were ever installed), and moving the forks up in the tree a bit. I actually ordered a custom kickstand that's 1.5" lower than stock to help also.
I suppose a side benefit is, the center of gravity will be a little lower!
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That's kind of strange that it droops enough to push it over with the sidestand... Mine only did that after I put the lowering links on it (even with my stand shortened an inch). Are you sure it's not already lowered and the extra links you have are the stockers? I believe that the lowering links are actually longer than the stock links, you can hold them side by side to check. Plus, the stock kawi links are just stamped steel with a number on them where'as the lowering links are usually made of machined aluminum.
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Re: crash bar engine guard conflict

It may have an adjustable suspension of some sort, the guy I bought it from said he adjusted the suspension to its "softest" setting, hence why it went down when sat on. I'll have to take a closer look.
It's definitely possible, this guy only had the bike for 400 miles, the prior owner made all the upgrades.
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Re: crash bar engine guard conflict

I do know I'd be bummed if I put those links in and the bike went UP...
I'm 5'7" and with my weight on the bike, I can reach the ground ok as is, a little lower would be nice though.
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Your skid plate is the original JNS design which is compatible with the SW Motech crash bars. A quick 1/2" trim with a jigsaw will make it compatible with the GIVI bars. I can send you pictures and specific dimensions if needed.

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I've been trying to find photos of the frame attachment points for the Givi and Motec bars, I found an installation thread on another forum where someone posted their installation shots, and looks like the Motec bars mount a bit higher than the Givi bars, maybe high enough to clear.

If not, I could trim the plate down, I suppose.

Funny that you mention the suspension sag - I'm 5'7", and notice that when I sit on it, I can get it to droop far enough that the bike leans to the other side, pushed over by the stock kickstand. I'm planning on lowering the bike maybe an inch or so, using some lowering links that I got with the bike (not sure if they were ever installed), and moving the forks up in the tree a bit. I actually ordered a custom kickstand that's 1.5" lower than stock to help also.
I suppose a side benefit is, the center of gravity will be a little lower!
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