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post #1 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 07:29 AM Thread Starter
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Hard time starting the bike

My 2011 KLR over the last couple months has gotten harder and harder to start. Up to this morning it would take 45-60 seconds of cranking/stopping/cranking to get going. I would you the choke but still it would not start.
This morning was the worst yet. I did not ride the bike in 3 days and when I went to start it this morning it took all of 4-5 minutes. It got to the point the battery was about to die and then I would of been SOL. It did not even sound like it was coming close to turning over until I was 3+ minutes into cranking.
Once I got it started I drove it 20 minutes to work and turned it off. I waited a couple of minutes and went back to the bike and it started right up.


Now possible ideas: Is the choke not working and the engine is starving for fuel? Is the bike just getting an attitude with age? (heck it ain't that old)

Any thought would be helpful.
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post #2 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 08:09 AM
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I have a 2011 and it never wanted to start like I thought it should. Always had to use the choke even when the bike was warm after a ride.

Last summer I hurt my shoulder and couldn't ride for 4 months. I started the bike every 3 or 4 weeks, but when I went to start riding the bike would hardly start and didn't want to run at all.
I was told to try some Seafoam fuel additive.
It worked great! I guess another brand might have worked as well but I'm sold on it.
The bike runs better now then when I first got it.
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post #3 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 09:24 AM
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If you haven't been inside your carb yet, maybe it's time. You need to unplug the pilot jet screw and set it to 2 1/4 turns out from seated.....it may be so tight turn wise that it's just too lean for it at start up and this poor fuel is just the last nail in the coffin so to speak. But I would if I was taking the carb off for any issues at all soak her in pinesol (start the laughing and flaming now guys...?) it works, just ask anyone who has done it to how well it does. Dismantle the entire carb and submerge the entire thing in the pine or original pinesol not the yellow stuff. Do not put the slider or the rubber parts in the pinesol. But soak everything else for 24 hours with a little stirring half way through. Wash it off with hot water and then blow carb cleaner through every air/fuel passage there is to get the water out of the system. Just reinstall all parts and set the pilot jet screw to 2 1/4 turns out from gently seated. You don't have to do any of the carb mods if you choose not to, but if you are in there I would. Think KLX needle and drilling the slider to 7/64ths. That is up to you. It is a better set up imho.

I will bet dollars to donuts your carb will run much smoother and start as it should afterwards. It is an east thing to take apart and rebuild, there are many diagrams available here I think or on the web for you to follow.

Hope this helps....

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I wouldn't be so quick to blame ethanol. My bike starts easily even after sitting for a week.

Have you done the 22 cent mod? How good is your battery? Running the battery down as you did and then riding it for only 20 minutes likely isn't enough to fully charge it.

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My 2011 KLR over the last couple months has gotten harder and harder to start...
This is a sign that the valves' clearances are closing up. You should check your valve clearances.

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This is a sign that the valves' clearances are closing up. You should check your valve clearances.

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It's the valves. Maybe you can soak them in Pinesol?

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Hey......have you tried the Pinesol yet? Don't knock it until you have...besides I need the commission!

It's a great hand cleaner also......oh yeh, cleans your toilet too....lol.

Hey I just thought of something.....if you fill your toilet up with it, place a cardboard plug in the bottom dismantle your carb and drop her in, you can clean the carb, your toilet and your hands in one motion!!! Just don't flush ....lol.

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sounds like fuel or spark, i also reccomend checking the idle mixture screw and pull your spark plug and check that too, then check your battery, simple stuff first

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This is a sign that the valves' clearances are closing up. You should check your valve clearances.

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