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post #1 of 15 Old 05-18-2013, 08:11 AM Thread Starter
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2012 slippery when dry?

So I was doing some spirited riding yesterday, mostly 50mph sweepers and had the back end slip out from under me. Didn't crash but after a mild heart attack I hit the forums last night looking for answers. Obviously tires, hopefully I wear the rear out this year. And get some 80/20 next year.

Then I read about how the stock shocks blows. I had everything stock, so I went and put it on 5. I'm probably 230 with gear. Hopefully this helps. I'm thinking I should be between 3 and 5. Didn't expect this to help with traction but we will see :-)

The other adjustment on the shock is the damper? Can someone tell me what that should be set to for on road riding? I think I read the are 3 settings and I should be on 2 or 3. Also I can't find the screw? Is it different on the 2012? i have noticed small differences between the 08 models and the 12 models. Like the chain adjustments are a little different.

Sorry for being a noob lol never had any other bike get loose like that...
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post #2 of 15 Old 05-18-2013, 08:28 AM
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Tires are your problem and maybe the rear shock being designed for a 165lb rider, so your fat ass is too much, just like mine. I went to a topgun 7.4 kg spring for the rear shock, progressive springs in the front with intimidator valving and Kenda 761 for my mostly road riding. I can ride as you say in the dry but I do not play in the wet. These tires many complain about slip in the wet(I guess they still ride as if it's dry?) I ride to the conditions of the road and slow down significantly if it wet. Common sense prevails...imho.
Tires are just like what oil is best threads so it's your call. The spring and front additions were priceless in the difference they made to my bike IMHO. The new valving in the forks allows for much quicker responce of the suspension and allows me to ride washboards with ease now. All the mods were worth the money and I would do them again in a heartbeat if I had a new bike.

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post #3 of 15 Old 05-18-2013, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
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I don't have a grand for new shocks, doubt I ever will :-( I don't t have any wash boards and off roading is minimal, dirt roads all have gravel, marbles, on them so I am getting further away from the them as well.

Diffenently have to get some tires that are good in the wet, stockers did Ok the other day I got poured on lol, even had a light go yellow and stopped just fine.

Soooo the damper? Suggestions?
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On the side of the lower end of the shock is a straight slot screw.Pg 129 of Gen2 owners manual. This is the rebound dampening adjustment. One turn out from seated is the standard setting. Turning the screw in increases the REBOUND dampening which resists the extension of the shock. Turning it out decreases it. If there is too little rebound dampening the rear will kickup after going over a bump.
If you have too much rebound dampening dialed in it will feel like the rear is sinking when you go over a section of washboard at speed. That is because it is! The shock doesn't have time to re-extend before hitting the next bump and packs down further on each subsequent bump. Dial in just enough rebound to keep the wheel tracking up and down over the washboard without getting that sinking feeling. Too little rebound and the tire will skip over the tops of the washboard bumps. Set it properly and washboard disappears.
I know you said you don't have washboard but it is an effective way to fine tune the suspension.
I would try it at the 1 turn out position and see how it works for you.
There is NO adjustment for compression dampening.
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Don't forget it could just have been a patch of oil on the ground from a Harley. Many many years ago I was in south Ca. I pull up to a red light going maybe 5 mph when I hit the breaks I just slid a good 15 feet past the white line into the intersection. Luckily no cars were coming.
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I thought a softer suspension would equal MORE traction? Seems like hard would bounce off the ground d more? So confused lol. What side of the bike is the damper screw on. It's just a straight flat screw right? Not an Allen wrench?
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Yup! Straight flat screw on the lower left (if memory serves) side of the shock. Just above the link attachment point.
There are no "clicks" to feel. It just turns in or out. Turn it in till it lightly bottoms, back it out one turn and fine tune from there. 1/4 turn is a significant adjustment. The "bounce off the ground" is controlled by the REBOUND dampening adjustment which is what we've been talking about.
Do big adjustments to experiment and feel the difference then go back and fine tune with small adjustments from the 1T out baseline.
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offroad vs your on road but same situation and some idea of what a little more traction can do.

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Gnarly trail Scrapper! I've said it before....It's much easier to drive knobbies on pavement than street tires on dirt!!
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luckily that isnt me being so foolish and throwing my bike while cussing, just a vid i saw a while back on youtube.

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