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post #1 of 11 Old 03-10-2014, 11:49 PM Thread Starter
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I purchased a 2009 klr 650 off a kid that was using it as a dirt bike on the family farm a few weeks ago. I should have done a more thorough job inspecting it but it was about 5 degrees in this guys garage and I got excited about the great deal I though I was getting. He assured me it was in great mechanical condition, haha.

Soon after I got it home I went to change the fluids and found the oil drain plug was pretty well stripped so I took it to my mechanic to have it hellicoiled, they found he head gasket leaking from what they said was poor installation ontop of the drain plug. After all that was rectified I rode it home and parked it. Next day I checked for oil leaks, none to be found so I took it for a ride to a friends house about 15 miles on the highway.

When I went to ride it home I could hear the valve train more than normal so I shut it down, checked the oil sightglass and it was showing empty! After refilling it with oil and letting it warm up I took a. Short ride down the street everything seemed fine no noticeable drop in oil level, to be safe I loaded it into my truck and took it home. I should add I cleaned off the grime on the bottom of the oil pan before I tested it, there wasn't any apparent leaking.

This bike has 22,000 miles on it, is it possible that highway speeds could cause it to drink oil that fast? Should I be looking into a piston or could there be something else wrong? I'm kind of stumped as to what I should do next. Any help would be appreciated!
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You might be in for a long haul with this one. Sorry, but my '08 uses oil, but not that bad.

Things to look for,
excessive residue out the tail pipe?
Pull the plug and see if it is getting oil fouled
What type of oil are you using? Try a synthetic 20W50 if you can find one.

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You cannot immediately check the oil volume accurately after running the engine; you must wait for the oil to drain from the engine passages into the sump for an accurate indication in the sight glass of the crankcase oil level, indicating its volume.

How much oil did it take to "fill it up," after you stopped?

Keep an eye on the oil level (after the lubricant has had time to settle in the sump) and your mileage vs. how much oil is needed to top off the level to the higher sight glass mark.

Possibly, you have a non-problem, with nominal oil mileage. Worst case: You have one of the unfortunate '08-'09 KLR650s with an excessive oil appetite. If the latter, replacement piston and rings is in order, based upon the reported experiences of other victims of oil-hungry '08-'09 KLR650s.

Further worse case: If the engine suffered oil starvation during its service life, chances are the exhaust cam journals, cam caps, and the exhaust cam, are TOAST. If so, you'll need a replacement cylinder head (cam bearing surfaces are integrally machined), cam caps (uniquely machined with their head), and exhaust camshaft (intake camshaft probably can be salvaged). An alternate fix is an involved and expensive rehabilitation of the head, and some new parts.

Unfortunately, you did not inform me early enough about your stripped oil drain hole, so I could have suggested an OVERSIZE OIL DRAIN PLUG, instead of the insert!

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I purchased a 2009 klr 650 off a kid that was using it as a dirt bike on the family farm a few weeks ago. I should have done a more thorough job inspecting it but it was about 5 degrees in this guys garage and I got excited about the great deal I though I was getting. He assured me it was in great mechanical condition, haha.

Soon after I got it home I went to change the fluids and found the oil drain plug was pretty well stripped so I took it to my mechanic to have it hellicoiled, they found he head gasket leaking from what they said was poor installation ontop of the drain plug. After all that was rectified I rode it home and parked it. Next day I checked for oil leaks, none to be found so I took it for a ride to a friends house about 15 miles on the highway.

When I went to ride it home I could hear the valve train more than normal so I shut it down, checked the oil sightglass and it was showing empty! After refilling it with oil and letting it warm up I took a. Short ride down the street everything seemed fine no noticeable drop in oil level, to be safe I loaded it into my truck and took it home. I should add I cleaned off the grime on the bottom of the oil pan before I tested it, there wasn't any apparent leaking.

This bike has 22,000 miles on it, is it possible that highway speeds could cause it to drink oil that fast? Should I be looking into a piston or could there be something else wrong? I'm kind of stumped as to what I should do next. Any help would be appreciated!

As Domocles mentions you have to wait a few minutes for the oil to settle back into the sump. Also the bike has to be upright and level not on the side stand to check the oil in the sight glass.

The motor is fairly noisy to begin with so unless you are used to how it sounds when everything is good yea it's concerning. Ear plugs!

If the motor was really using oil in the amount that you suspect it would be dripping off the exhaust and producing a lot of smoke.

I would guess that the transmisson is now overfilled. To be safe I would dump the oil and refill.

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Thanks for all the responses, I'm going to start with draining the oil and replacing it to ensure it's got the right amount and then go from there. Hopefully I just panicked on this one. There is no oil or smoke coming from the exhaust so I guess that's a good sign. I'm a huge armature when it come to bikes I've only been riding for a few months.
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After filling the engine with oil, don't panic if the level appears immediately slightly lower, after you first kick it off and then let the oil drain. The cavity of the oil filter must be filled, initially appearing as an oil volume void.

That said, I see no value in draining and re-filling your crankcase at this stage of the game; top it off and keep an eye on the oil level; one hopes you'll be golden; if not, a solution exists!
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Thanks for all the responses, I'm going to start with draining the oil and replacing it to ensure it's got the right amount and then go from there. Hopefully I just panicked on this one. There is no oil or smoke coming from the exhaust so I guess that's a good sign. I'm a huge armature when it come to bikes I've only been riding for a few months.
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You have not said whether or not You filled it up to the top of the oil window, with the bike VERTICAL or on the Side Stand?

If it was on the side stand, just Stand it up, Almost Vertical, and cautiously drain ONLY the excess.

The Designed oil capacity is 2.5 L, which is Slightly above the window, even after filling a fresh/dry oil filter.
Most of us USA residents only fill 2.5 QTs., still to the top of the window.

A cup or a pint, overfull is better/safer than at the bottom of the window, or Worse Yet, way Below the window.

But oil is relatively cheap. Don't loose the drain plug aluminum gasket and don't Over-tighten and over-crush the gasket.

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MasterSplinter,
You have not said whether or not You filled it up to the top of the oil window, with the bike VERTICAL or on the Side Stand?

If it was on the side stand, just Stand it up, Almost Vertical, and cautiously drain ONLY the excess.

The Designed oil capacity is 2.5 L, which is Slightly above the window, even after filling a fresh/dry oil filter.
Most of us USA residents only fill 2.5 QTs., still to the top of the window.

A cup or a pint, overfull is better/safer than at the bottom of the window, or Worse Yet, way Below the window.

But oil is relatively cheap. Don't loose the drain plug aluminum gasket and don't Over-tighten and over-crush the gasket.
It was on the side stand when I refilled it, it is now sitting in my garage on a swing arm stand. I'm traveling for work for a few days but when I get back I will check the level and drain any excess, I'm certain there will be some.
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It was on the side stand when I refilled it, it is now sitting in my garage on a swing arm stand. I'm traveling for work for a few days but when I get back I will check the level and drain any excess, I'm certain there will be some.
MasterSplinter,
Are you still riding this bike?
How is your oil consumption?

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All too often on this forum the op's never readdress the issue.
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