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post #1 of 10 Old 05-23-2016, 11:32 PM Thread Starter
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Tougher indicator replacements???

Hi all,

I am in need of another set of indicators for my 2008 KLR.

This last set were made from brittle, hard plastic. The fact they stick out into space makes them easy to knock and break.

This time, I want to buy a new set that are:

• Visible (large/bright)
• Tough
• Priced reasonably

I have searched ebay and some intranet suppliers and catalogues, but cannot tell the product quality of the images. I have searched the forum, but couldn't find a discussion on the topic.

Has anyone mounted an indicator to the KLR that has stood the test of time?

At this stage, the bike is still traditional bulb. I could switch to LED, but have not researched enough how easy this is to do (I will you tube it after work tonight)…

I am happy to re-fit traditional bulbs if the option is more viable for now.

Other option I thought of:

• has anyone modified more durable indicators from other bikes (models or brands) to suit?

I have seen some flush mount indicators on ebay I thought I could attempt to fit to the front fairing. But, I haven’t seen one that would mount flush at the rear, but also retain visibility.

Look forward to hearing your responses.

Cheers,
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post #2 of 10 Old 05-24-2016, 07:29 AM
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Mine have been on since 2004. A previous owner felt the need to replace a mirror and handle bar. The bike has radiator shroud damage and a slightly creased radiator but the indicators look to be the originals.

May be the pre-2007 indicators will fit on the newer KLRs.
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post #3 of 10 Old 05-24-2016, 01:15 PM
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The 2008 KLRs all had bad rubber in the black stalks. There was a factory recall replacing them all under warranty. Do you know if yours were replaced?

After the replacement on my 2008 I have ridden about 100K miles on long distance dirt road routes with no problems. It still has the original signal bulbs.
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The 2008 KLRs all had bad rubber in the black stalks. There was a factory recall replacing them all under warranty. Do you know if yours were replaced?

After the replacement on my 2008 I have ridden about 100K miles on long distance dirt road routes with no problems. It still has the original signal bulbs.
Some of the 08s are OK. Mine was/is. But a lot of them were junk.




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post #5 of 10 Old 05-24-2016, 10:03 PM
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The rubber part of the indicators were shot on my bike. I was able to remove it and mount flush the front signals. I cut tin and covered with black duct tape and used this as a "washer" to cover the holes on the fairing. Then used screws that I put in from behind to fasten the indicators. They look good and are very solid. Close enough to the fairing that they don't catch branches and survive drops.

The rears I did a bit differently. Used three inch screws in the correct size that actually fit into the hard plastic of the indicators. Put washers where it connects to the rear mounts. I haven't found a good covering for the screws so it is black duct tape again to cover the screws. This past weekend the screw bent (mystery how), but it didn't snap. I bent it back to straight and away we go! The rears don't look finished but do the job as I'm less concerned with the aesthetics. I wish I had taken step by step pictures. I'll post the finished product tomorrow (too tired to go to the garage tonight).

If the hard plastic has broken on your indicators these fixes won't work for you. Personally, I figured that the lights were working and if I could find a fix for less than $15.00 it was worth it as I dread wiring.
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post #6 of 10 Old 05-26-2016, 07:12 PM Thread Starter
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Hi all,
Thanks for your replies.
Shaoul, I look forward to your images, both front and rear of the bike!

I shied away from replacing with original Kawa products, I haven't sourced quotes for indicators, but everything else I have requested dealer quotes for, come back at extortionate prices.

Will check on recall for indicators, I checked the wiring recall with the dealer and they confirmed that - suspect indicators may have been replaced at same time, but will confirm...

regards
Alf

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post #7 of 10 Old 05-26-2016, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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In terms of LED upgrade, the information I have found is in this video:

KLR 650 Gen 1 Full Led Upgrade W/ Diode Install:

youtu.be/0WP02UOPib8

(note, I had to remove the url information from the link to be able to post)

The video description lists a few threads with further detail on a full bike LED upgrade.

I don't need that, so I will need to mine through the threads for the specific information about the indicators and the Diode install.

Plus my bike is Gen2.

Note, I see that I can replace the indicator solenoid with and LED specific one. Would Just a quick question though:

- Does this solenoid negate the need to install the diodes?
- If not, why would I need to replace it?

Does anyone have more succinct videos, or threads they are aware of that only focus on indicator rewires on Gen2 650?

The search continues...

Cheers,
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post #8 of 10 Old 05-27-2016, 04:15 AM
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The wiring and wire colors work the same for both gen1 and gen2 bikes.
For LED signal lights the stock Turn Signal Relay (also called Blinker or Solenoid) is replaced with an electronic Turn Signal Relay because the LED bulbs don't pull enough electrical current to make the stock relay blink. So, the signals would turn on, but not blink.

The diodes for the dash indicator light is required because there is only one indicator light rather than two like in a car. For this to work the dash bulb is wired so that one side of the bulb is connected to the left turn signals and the other side to the right turn signals.

When you switch for a left turn, the bulb receives the same blinking voltage as the left signals. A small amount of current passes through the small dash bulb and on backwards through the right signals to ground. That small current is enough to light the dash light but not the much larger signal bulbs. The same thing happens in the other direction when you switch for a right turn.

The problem with LED signals is that they work on a small current also and the current through the dash bulb will cause the opposite side to blink also. The diodes wired to the dash bulb solve this.

There is a possibility that a non-polarized LED dash bulb would pass so little current that the opposite side signals would not light up, but I haven't tested this and the diodes will work for sure.

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Sorry I haven't posted the pictures until now. The rear signals I used the 3 inch #10 screws, they fit into the existing signal housing. Secured the screw in place using large diameter washers. Then wrapped with duct tape. I'll improve on the aesthetics at a later date.

Front signals I used the existing hardware and fashioned a "washer" to stabilize it to the fairing using sheet metal. They tuck in nicely to the fairing. I like the look and the fact that they don't get to much brush and are protected from a drop.
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post #10 of 10 Old 06-03-2016, 08:15 PM
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I think the pictures will load this time...
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