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post #1 of 9 Old 02-24-2017, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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Tender Loving Care

Did a little tender loving care today.

Replaced stock battery with a gel battery.
Changed oil & filter.
Installed Magnetic drain plug from Eagle Mike.
Installed UNI air filter (see more below) **
Cut 9 inches off the front fender and pained it with Rustoleum Bedliner.
Topped off with 100% gasoline.

** I washed my stock air filter with Kawasaki detergent in preparation for oiling it with the Kawasaki oil supplied in the kit. I used warm water for the wash as instructed, and almost immediately the filter fell apart at the seams. I tossed the 3 pieces in the trash and ordered a Uni filter.

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post #2 of 9 Old 02-24-2017, 04:31 PM
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The filter deterioration in soap and water is interesting. I've been cleaning my stock Kawasaki filters with gasoline for many many tens of thousands of miles with no problems. Was yours a stock filter or aftermarket?

Did the fender require cutting due to damage?
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Did a little tender loving care today.

Installed UNI air filter (see more below) **


** I washed my stock air filter with Kawasaki detergent in preparation for oiling it with the Kawasaki oil supplied in the kit. I used warm water for the wash as instructed, and almost immediately the filter fell apart at the seams. I tossed the 3 pieces in the trash and ordered a Uni filter.

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I'll bet that 'detergent and oil kit' is/was actually made by No-Toil. The original formula.
At least your filter didn't develop holes in it while inside the dirty air box, like my friends 1987 -A1 that I recently installed an EM 661 piston kit into.

I wonder how many other foam filters have been destroyed by that early formula? Probably not only Kawasaki air filters either!

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This was a kit from Kawasaki that contained powdered detergent, oil (probably vegetable based) and a tube of grease.
I used the oil on my Uni filter, and hopefully it won't come apart when washed. The kit instructions said that gasoline would not remove the oil and you had to use the supplied detergent in warm water. The filter was the original oem filter.

My front fender was not damaged (except for a few scratches). I didn't like the way it wobbled at highway speeds with a little cross wind.
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This was a kit from Kawasaki that contained powdered detergent, oil (probably vegetable based) and a tube of grease.
I used the oil on my Uni filter, and hopefully it won't come apart when washed. The kit instructions said that gasoline would not remove the oil and you had to use the supplied detergent in warm water. The filter was the original oem filter.

My front fender was not damaged (except for a few scratches). I didn't like the way it wobbled at highway speeds with a little cross wind.
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You did Shake, shake, shake the No-Toil oil (K part# K61080-024) VERY, very Well before using it Correct??

And yes, the No-Toil detergent (K part# K61080-025) is the Only thing that will dissolve their oil! Even from your hands!

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You did Shake, shake, shake the No-Toil oil (K part# K61080-024) VERY, very Well before using it Correct??

And yes, the No-Toil detergent (K part# K61080-025) is the Only thing that will dissolve their oil! Even from your hands!
By the way, on the original OEM filter that I have been cleaning with gasoline for 100k miles, I use the same oil that goes in the engine. That way on trips I only have to carry one type of oil and I always have gas for cleaning.
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By the way, on the original OEM filter that I have been cleaning with gasoline for 100k miles, I use the same oil that goes in the engine. That way on trips I only have to carry one type of oil and I always have gas for cleaning.
Which is why I love petroleum oils on air filters. In a pinch we can do a quote-unquote "solvent cleaning" only.

In the shop or home garage I prefer to blow off the big stuff with compressed air, then a solvent bath, then a soapy bath, then 2 clear rinses. Allow time for 100% dry before re-oiling.
On the trail or road side with solvent Only one can sort of squeeze and shake 98% of the solvent out, re-oil and go. I've only had to assist in 1 road side air filter servicing in over 47 yrs of riding, knock on wood!
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If it was the no toil cleaner that ate the glue on the original filter, send NoToils customer support an email. I did when my stocker disintegrated from their products and they sent me a brand new pre oiled NoToil filter! I had to send my wrecked stocker back in a pre adressed supplied envelope (NoToil paid the postage). Outstanding customer support!

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On the trail or road side with solvent Only one can sort of squeeze and shake 98% of the solvent out, re-oil and go. I've only had to assist in 1 road side air filter servicing in over 47 yrs of riding, knock on wood!
I like telling this story. The filter cleaning I remember most was on the TAT about 15 miles from Denio Junction in Nevada about half an hour before dark. The KLR died halfway up a hill in first gear and would go no farther. I knew what the problem was - Nevada Poofy Dust. It is like smoke on steroids.

I opened the filter access door and saw an 1/8" poofy dust layer on the filter. I dropped the filter in the Subway Sandwich bag I always carry and siphoned some gas in with it. After squeezing the filter in the gas enough to clean it I raised the filter above the gas and squeezed it dry then I took the filter out and put the bag on a large bare spot of ground and dropped a match on it to keep from leaving the gas and oil in the ground.

After putting some engine oil on the filter the bike climbed the hill fine. The only problem was that the sun had gone down and I was still 15 miles out in the desert.

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