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post #1 of 7 Old 06-25-2017, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
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balance dots and 705s

Hi all I have a tire question I just got a new set of Shinko 705s for my 2010 KLR650 and the front tire has a red paint dot (circle) on it but none on rear tire my question is is this a balance mark or not and if so would it align with the valve stem or opposite the valve stem ? My research on this has gave me a headache with all the conflicting information I have found as what position red dots or yellow dots or bar codes etc. Thanks for any and all help on this !
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A buddy of mine and myself have played with balance dots in the past using his tire machine in his shop for exactly all the reasons you listed. Since this is what he does for a living, he figured he better do his homework. We saw very little to no difference in balance when shifting the dot around. And we were using the balancer in the micro balance mode, which will pick up down to a few grams of weight.

5 grams = 0.17 ounces. Typical stick on weights come in 1/4oz segments.

JMO, but we discounted the whole thing after that little experience. Others may have a different opinion.
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Thanks Shinyribs for the quick reply maybe I am being a little OCD on this overthinking it but I would like to know about the dots and position of the tire in relation to the rim and valve stem and a well balanced tire couldn't hurt
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Thanks Shinyribs for the quick reply maybe I am being a little OCD on this overthinking it but I would like to know about the dots and position of the tire in relation to the rim and valve stem and a well balanced tire couldn't hurt
We really wanted to know, too. But according to our hands on tests, the dots meant nothing.

Has any tire manufacturers ever said that the dots actually mean anything? Or is just something we have fabricated on our own? lol

Maybe I'll shoot some tire builders some emails and see what they say about it. I like things straight from the horses mouth.
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Thanks Shinyribs for the quick reply maybe I am being a little OCD on this overthinking it but I would like to know about the dots and position of the tire in relation to the rim and valve stem and a well balanced tire couldn't hurt
Install the tire with the 'dot' near the valve stem. If it is a balance dot it should take just a little less weight to balance.

If it is not a balance dot, we will have tried our best and will balance to the best of our abilities anyways and ride on.

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According to the email Shinko sent me ( I'll just paraphrase here):

Yellow dot denotes the lowest weighted area of the tire, so park it beside the valve stem. Like PD said.

Red dot denotes the portion of the tire the furthest out of round. If you rim is marked for out of round ( apparently some manufacturers mark them?...no clue how to decipher that or what to look for) then locating the red dot takes presidence over the yellow dots location.

Huh...interesting.
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One would not think it could be so confusing or conflicting information on just mounting a tire I know it's not rocket science and if it will balance with an acceptable amount of weight all is good but curious minds want to know. I have a friend in the car tire business I think I will swing by today and get his input on this paint dot thing. Fact or myth maybe he can shed some light on this. well on car tires!
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