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post #21 of 33 Old 05-16-2018, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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This is not the right place, but all I have is my phone and the mobile view.

I don’t think I mentioned it, but I put a Gen 1 radiator on the bike. Details at souperdoo.com.

Equilibrium seems to be 205* at the head and 175* at the T-Bob. That makes my head explode and I need to look at some notes.

This radiator seems more susceptible to load, too. It controls the head temperature pretty well, keeping it at the middle two-teens, but doesn’t shed heat as well and let’s the outlet temperature rise, which activated the fan a lot. Today I was doing steep climbs at slow speed.

What the world needs is a Gen 2 radiator with a Gen 1 top tank.

Photo is from the downhill side of Figueroa Mt., probably 30 miles inland above Solvang. You can see the Pacific at what I’d guess is off Gaviota Beach.
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360 today with 40 of it dirt. I really like this tank; much easier to handle. The Gen 1 radiator keeps up with the heat ok. It still runs 174/205 ish and the oil was running mid 190s.

@pdwestman, this oil load is going to run out to 3600. Intend to get a sample out Monday.
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360 today with 40 of it dirt. I really like this tank; much easier to handle. The Gen 1 radiator keeps up with the heat ok. It still runs 174/205 ish and the oil was running mid 190s.

@pdwestman, this oil load is going to run out to 3600. Intend to get a sample out Monday.
My only question is, what size of crankshaft oil control orifice is currently installed in your bike Tom?

Factory size in the bottom rod pin is 3 mm. I've been as small as 2.06 mm. My engine oil was still better/cleaner than the UA of all 'usable' oil samples when mileages were divided into the ppm's.

I'm looking forward to your oil report!
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Right now, none. If this sample comes back good I'll put mine back in. It is a genuine LMK #43.

The Wφssner piston has no oil holes for the wrist pin. I was a bit concerned that adding the orifice straight away might not be a good idea, so I decided to go through a couple of KHI 10-40 changes before going back to it. It should be broken in by now and, if the oil is good, the orifice can go back in.

It will be interesting to see the change in cam pressure. Right now my cam pressure is running 3 3/4psi @ 5000RPM @ 195℉. Today I watched the oil temp track to the ambient temps. I should have recorded ambient vs oil temp, once the oil had reached stabilization at ^0℉ ambient, to see what the relationship was. Today's ride started at 60℉ and went up to 90℉ over a straight and flat course of 400 miles. Opportunity lost.
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That would be correct...

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Bit of an old thread wake-up... sorry! Anyway know the weight difference of the IMS 6.6 to a stock tank?

Has IMS changed anything or does this MOD still require the fitting of a Gen 1 radiator?
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It doesn't exactly require a Gen 1 radiator, but it fits better.


See this: https://www.souperdoo.com/stuff%20th...emi-round-hole
and then:https://www.souperdoo.com/stuff%20th...s-to-newcastle

I did not weigh the IMS 6.6 before installing it. Perhaps @DPelletier knows the weight.
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all that steel will at least keep the front wheel on the ground under fierce accelleration!!!!!
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I don't have the exact figures in front of me, but the upshot is there is negligeable weight difference between the stock steel tank and the IMS 6.6.....where the big weight savings comes in is due to the fact that the 6.6 protects the rad adequately without adding 12 - 15lbs worth of crashbars. It also holds the stock amount of fuel lower for a lower CG. ....I had the stock tank and HT bars on my 2001 and the IMS on my 2000 and the difference offroad was very noticeable.....so I went with the IMS on both. the plastic tank also felt slimmer though I can't back that up with dimensions.

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