IMS 6.6 on Gen 2 - Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum
2008+ KLR650 Wrenching & Mod Questions For repair, maintaining or modifying discussions related to the newly updated 2008 and beyond, Generation 2 KLR650 Motorcycle.

 17Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 33 Old 04-21-2018, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
Pretty in Pink, dunno why
 
Tom Schmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 8,101
Garage
IMS 6.6 on Gen 2

When I bought my 2009 it had an IMS 10. There has been a love/hate relationship with that tank. I hate it because it is too damn big, the pump fails, it is unwieldy as all hell to take off, even if it is only half full (forget it if you need to pull the tank and it is full!), and it is hard to keep track of gas mileage unless you fill the stupid thing every time. I love it because, if I don't want to and the pump is working, I can ride all day without filling up. I love the protection it affords to the vulnerable bits.

If you were keeping score, the cons outweigh the pros on both count and importance. Candidly, I don't think I'd have ever bought the thing. ONe, I'm too cheap and, two, all of the above are predictable.

I have a stock tank that I could put back on, but that would mean putting back the plastics and the nerf bars, and I wasn't happy with the plastics and the nerf bars 10 years ago and distance ain't made the heart grow fonder.

Recent conversations here made me think about the IMS 6.6. It really hadn't occurred to me to try one before because, well, you know, it's a Gen 1 thing. Some research showed that there didn't seem to be much out there where people had installed one on a Gen 2, at least where they had 'twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was'.

A visit to the IMS website (ugh) showed that the IMS people say it (*CAN FIT ‘08 MODELS W/O SHROUDS;PLASTICS). I guess what that means is that if you strip everything that is either a shroud or plastic that it will fit.

At first consideration, it seemed that making one of these fit the Gen 2 would involve a Gen 1 radiator, fan, and a change to the wiring to accommodate the Gen 1 temp switch, so this was Good News To Me™. Might be that it would work.

I happened to know where there was a nearby, unused 6.6. I inquired as to whether it might before sale for a reasonable price and whether or not I could buy it. It was and I could, so I did. Got it laid out in the Shop of Horrors early this morning.


What I figger to do is strip the KLR tomorrow and see if this thing will fit. If it does I'll put it on, though I've no idea what all the brackets are for and where they go, as the instructions are für Scheiße. They might as well have used ASCII drawings on the instruction sheet, for all the sense I can make of it.

If it fits and I can get it mounted, I'll figure out how much gas would get left in the left wing and what the total capacity of the tank is.
pdwestman and DPelletier like this.

Tom [email protected]

“On the way downtown I stopped at a bar and had a couple of double Scotches. They didn't do me any good. All they did was make me think of Silver-Wig, and I never saw her again.” -Philip Marlowe

“'Why' and 'How' are words so important they cannot be too often used.” -Napoleon Bonaparte

Sting like a butterfly.
Noli Timere Messorem
Tom Schmitz is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 33 Old 04-21-2018, 07:05 PM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Posts: 2,849
I look forward to your detailed report! :-) FYI, the plate with the crease is to attach to the rear tank bolts to the frame, the gasket is for the petcock, one set of brackets is for the rad (most people, me included, don't use 'em) and the other set is for the front of the sideplates....they generally take some tweeking and I also had to do some minor trimming on my side plates.

Cheers,

Dave
DPelletier is offline  
post #3 of 33 Old 04-21-2018, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
Pretty in Pink, dunno why
 
Tom Schmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 8,101
Garage
Well, boogers. The aforementioned Good News To Me™ turns out to be false.

Here's the first problem; the radiator is too wide by about the width of the brackets:


That's easy to fix (though the changes to the fan will be a bit more complicated). The tabs can be bent backward. Unfortunately, the radiator is now a bit too tall:


I think that it may be possible to rotate the radiator forward by making a bracket for this attach point.


The idea is to get this done without any serious fabrication or Gen 1 parts transplants. Transplanting a Gen 1 radiator and fan would take the 6.6 into the same realm as the 10 in terms of cost. Boo, hiss.

If I can make the tank fit with just a radiator rotation I'll work on fitting some sort of protection for side impact.
pdwestman likes this.

Tom [email protected]

“On the way downtown I stopped at a bar and had a couple of double Scotches. They didn't do me any good. All they did was make me think of Silver-Wig, and I never saw her again.” -Philip Marlowe

“'Why' and 'How' are words so important they cannot be too often used.” -Napoleon Bonaparte

Sting like a butterfly.
Noli Timere Messorem
Tom Schmitz is online now  
 
post #4 of 33 Old 04-22-2018, 11:58 AM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Posts: 2,849
good luck and I look forward to seeing how you make out. as far as side protection goes, the JNS rad guard offers significant side protection IMO though I'm sure a reasonably talented guy could make something cheaper.

Dave
DPelletier is offline  
post #5 of 33 Old 04-22-2018, 12:57 PM Thread Starter
Pretty in Pink, dunno why
 
Tom Schmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 8,101
Garage
Not sure I could mount the JNS with the radiator tipped forward. Thinking about a strut at the bottom of the radiator.

Tom [email protected]

“On the way downtown I stopped at a bar and had a couple of double Scotches. They didn't do me any good. All they did was make me think of Silver-Wig, and I never saw her again.” -Philip Marlowe

“'Why' and 'How' are words so important they cannot be too often used.” -Napoleon Bonaparte

Sting like a butterfly.
Noli Timere Messorem
Tom Schmitz is online now  
post #6 of 33 Old 04-22-2018, 01:42 PM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Posts: 2,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Schmitz View Post
Not sure I could mount the JNS with the radiator tipped forward. Thinking about a strut at the bottom of the radiator.
Yeah, depends how you do it; the JNS mounts to the same bolt as the rad. I'm sure a strut would work just fine.

Dave
DPelletier is offline  
post #7 of 33 Old 04-23-2018, 10:13 AM
2nd Gear
 
KLR Kool-Aid!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 118
Excuse me, but I must note that "für Scheiße" was the name of my very first band (and it was appropriately named).

"This is wunderbar! I like Germany," was Tom's gut reaction.
KLR Kool-Aid! is online now  
post #8 of 33 Old 04-23-2018, 11:08 AM
2nd Gear
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: South of Charlotte, NC
Posts: 338
You got some good bugs there. I will just get a tour tank if I am going to need extra fuel for a long journey. My high school bands name was Barrier. Yep, long long long time ago.

patroy75 is offline  
post #9 of 33 Old 04-23-2018, 11:37 AM
4th Gear
 
GoMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPelletier View Post
good luck and I look forward to seeing how you make out. as far as side protection goes, the JNS rad guard offers significant side protection IMO though I'm sure a reasonably talented guy could make something cheaper.

Dave
On my gen2 with a 10 gal. IMS tank the tank lobe "protecting" the radiator folded in like a cardboard box when I dropped it in a corn field in Saskatchewan. The radiator was crushed and had several large leaks. Large amounts of JB Weld got me back to Houston and I bought a new Mylers double thick radiator, so that was good.

To protect the new and not cheap radiator I bolted two 1-1/2"x 1-1/2" x5" angle irons to the front motor mount with the flanges turned out in front of the frame tube. I bolted a 1"x1" square tube across these flanges out to the tank lobes. I added a little foot on each end to go back behind the tank lobes for more support.

I have dropped it many times since then without the lobes folding in and damaging the radiator or the reservoir bottle.
DPelletier likes this.
GoMotor is offline  
post #10 of 33 Old 04-23-2018, 12:50 PM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Posts: 2,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMotor View Post
On my gen2 with a 10 gal. IMS tank the tank lobe "protecting" the radiator folded in like a cardboard box when I dropped it in a corn field in Saskatchewan. The radiator was crushed and had several large leaks. Large amounts of JB Weld got me back to Houston and I bought a new Mylers double thick radiator, so that was good.

To protect the new and not cheap radiator I bolted two 1-1/2"x 1-1/2" x5" angle irons to the front motor mount with the flanges turned out in front of the frame tube. I bolted a 1"x1" square tube across these flanges out to the tank lobes. I added a little foot on each end to go back behind the tank lobes for more support.

I have dropped it many times since then without the lobes folding in and damaging the radiator or the reservoir bottle.
Yep, I remember the story; you're experience has modified my response on the whole rad protection issue as it relates to the 10gall IMS. OTOH, I've had several crashes with the 6.6 and it shows zero sign of folding or distortion; I suspect it is far stronger than the 10gall. The combo of the IMS 6.6 and the JNS rad guard has held up admirably so far and the combination also fits well with my "keep the weight down" mantra.

Maybe you should do a little write up with some pics for the other 10gall owners and see if Tom could sticky it.....

Cheers,
Dave
DPelletier is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ims tank for gen 2 shugs 2008+ KLR650 Wrenching & Mod Questions 11 08-15-2017 08:27 PM
Gen 1 gen 2, year model parts interchange? dan filipi 2008+ KLR650 Wrenching & Mod Questions 4 02-19-2017 07:04 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome