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post #1 of 31 Old 12-17-2018, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Service Manual: Version Differences?

I ordered the Kawasaki Service Manual from eBay the other day, and although the auction said it was part # 99924-1384-12, it was actually the …-11 version. Wondering if I should go to the hassle of a return. Any thoughts? Is the newer one better?
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I think our resident expert is @pdwestman.

My experience is limited but I will say that KHI is rather slow to make changes sometimes and doesn't tell what the changes were.

For example, I have two versions, the first edition of the Gen 2 manual and the -09. The first edition had many errors in it, e.g. the spec for the torque on the footpeg bolts. The -09 version covers up through the '15 model year but does not include the changes made to the clutch in mid '11.

There are some changes from Gen 1 to Gen 2, like the increase of the torque value on the drain plug, that I often think might be errors they have not yet corrected.

It's hard to say if the newer one is better and worth trying to get because nobody outside the hallowed halls of Kawasaki knows what the difference is!

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I ordered the Kawasaki Service Manual from eBay the other day, and although the auction said it was part # 99924-1384-12, it was actually the …-11 version. Wondering if I should go to the hassle of a return. Any thoughts? Is the newer one better?
Tweedledum, and Tweedledee, probably were not TOTALLY identical, but . . . the difference between a 2011 and a 2012 manual is probably less. (Credit George Wallace for the, "Through The Looking Glass . . .," reference.)
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There is no doubt that this is a high stakes election. It is not Tweedledum and Tweedledee, as former Alabama Gov. George Wallace famously said of the major parties when he ran as a third-party candidate nearly a half century ago.
(From Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball; Rhodes' comment about the 2016 presidential election.)

Alice must wonder: Is Tweedledum on the LEFT, or is that Tweedledee?


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I ordered the Kawasaki Service Manual from eBay the other day, and although the auction said it was part # 99924-1384-12, it was actually the …-11 version. Wondering if I should go to the hassle of a return. Any thoughts? Is the newer one better?
Samuel,

When you get your Service Manual, go directly to the last page and it will list all of the model years that the manual covers.

The manual that I got (from my dealer) for my "2016" model year is part number 99924-1384-10, 10th Edition (1): July 17, 2015 and covers model years 2008 to 2016.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I went ahead and requested the return. I figured that since my buying it was based on the idea that it would be the latest version, I should follow through on it.
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If you want the "latest" manual, get the 2018 edition!



You ask for our assessment and advice, then . . . do what you originally intended!

Not that there's anything wrong with THAT . . .
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Damocles, I sure did, didn't I…! I was kinda hoping someone could say they were actually the exact same thing, but not hearing that, I went with the swap out
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As Bill10 showed, the last suffix number has Nothing to do with the year date.

The OEM Service Manual which I have is 99924-1384-07, covers 2008-2014 model year bikes. Add -07 + 4 = -11. So I was gonna' suggest that #99924-1384-11 could have been the LAST Printing.

But since Bill10 has a 99924-1384-10 which covers up to 2016 model year.
There must have been an additional revision between my manual, 99924-1384-07 / 7th Edition (0) : Apr. 12 2013 and his.

I am not aware of any mechanical changes between the 2017 & 2018 model year KLR's.
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We'll know on Thursday. I ordered the -12, which KHI lists as the latest version. I'm going to try to compare it to my -09 version to see if I can find any differences. I never did that with my first version Gen 2 manual except to see if they had changed the things I already knew about.

It can't be that they publish new versions with no changes. Maybe they at least caught up with the '11 1/2 clutch change...
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Damocles, I sure did, didn't I…! I was kinda hoping someone could say they were actually the exact same thing, but not hearing that, I went with the swap out
If you find significant distinction between Tweedledum and Tweedledee; and if you disregard Bill10's comment above, "The manual that I got (from my dealer) for my "2016" model year is part number 99924-1384-10, 10th Edition (1): July 17, 2015 and covers model years 2008 to 2016," then . . . perhaps only the manual most contemporaneous with your bike will guide you correctly through your maintenance and repair activities. Your bike may have significant and unique characteristics escaping the 2008 through 2016 model year time spectrum.

One fact remains certain: Your bike's bold new (for its era) graphics distinguish it from all other KLR650 models.


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