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post #31 of 36 Old 02-19-2019, 09:22 AM
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Mostly wet and cold. The bike has been taken apart and put back together several times while it pours.

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post #32 of 36 Old 02-19-2019, 09:25 AM
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That is very interesting! I am surprised to learn that you guys clean your chains, but do not lube them. I would have thought that the chain would not last long like that.

I must admit that my own experience with my old chain (The one I recently replaced) supports your stance on chain maintenance. You may recall that I suggested my lax attitude towards chain lubrication was the cause of its short life. I lubricated that chain fairly regularly, though, not as often as the owner's manual suggests.
However, I am embarrassed to admit that I only cleaned it once in about 14600ish miles. The day I cleaned it was the day I realized it was in bad condition. My experience supports the opinion that cleaning is more important to these chains than is lubricating!

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While chain lubrication is indeed beneficial, when it comes to motorcycle chains and dirt roads not so much. The key if riding in dirt is keeping it clean not oiled up. The oil in the dirt is only beneficial for about a mile or two before the chain gets coated with grit and starts the erosion process. If going on a long hwy ride then I might be using chain lube, but never if going in any trails or on gravel roads.
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While chain lubrication is indeed beneficial, when it comes to motorcycle chains and dirt roads not so much. The key if riding in dirt is keeping it clean not oiled up. The oil in the dirt is only beneficial for about a mile or two before the chain gets coated with grit and starts the erosion process. If going on a long hwy ride then I might be using chain lube, but never if going in any trails or on gravel roads.
That makes total sense. An external lube will actually attract dirt to the chain. If it is only cleaned well, the chain “should” be less likely to get dirt between the plates.....that is to say, when riding mostly or all dirt. The same should apply to the sprockets.

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I will say that lubing, combined with continual cleaning is better than cleaning only when it comes to chain life. My 74 CB750 has an oiler built into the countershaft that depending on how far out you have the setscrew in the end, bleeds engine oil out onto the drive sprocket and chain. This keeps the chain extremely clean and WELL lubed. The drawback is the left side of the wheel also is well lubed and a real pain in the ass to keep looking good. You also need to park it over a drip pan or you'll get oil spots on your nice new concrete floor. I will add that this bike still has the original sprockets and is currently only on it's second chain during it's 45 year life. Sprockets have almost zero visible wear on them too.

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Prior to converting over to the use of WD-40 I had a chain oiler on the bike. The continual flow of oil kept the chain clean because the oil would pick up the dirt and then it would all be flung all over the rear wheel, the swing arm, the engine cases, my left leg, the windshield of every car following me, most of the roads in California, and roadside animals and small children.

The chain and sprockets lasted almost forever, though. There was that.
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Prior to converting over to the use of WD-40 I had a chain oiler on the bike. The continual flow of oil kept the chain clean because the oil would pick up the dirt and then it would all be flung all over the rear wheel, the swing arm, the engine cases, my left leg, the windshield of every car following me, most of the roads in California, and roadside animals and small children.

The chain and sprockets lasted almost forever, though. There was that.
LOL; well said!


I will never argue that an O-ring chain won't last longer with the application of an external lube (in addition to cleaning and maintenance), it's just that the extra life isn't worth the hassle and mess for me......I'll be happy with even half Bill's 34,000 miles as long as I don't have to deal with the gigantic mess that lube makes. My Scott Oiler permanently resides in my "spare parts bin".

Wear is dependent on many things; maintenance, conditions, climate, usage, riding style, etc. etc. ......my WAG is that adding lube to my chains maintenance routine may add 10 - 20% to the lifespan which just isn't worth it to me.


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