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post #11 of 17 Old 03-02-2019, 02:55 PM
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Ditto on Tom's comments; if you have trouble installing a tubed tire, you reeeaaly won't like trying to re-seat a tubeless tire on a rim in the field. Spoked wheels are used on every real dirt bike and all dirt oriented dual sport/dual purpose and ADV bikes for good reason. While you can convert a tube type spoked wheel to a tube-less setup, the issues dealing with re-seating and maintaining the seal make it a poor idea IMO.

Tubes are simple and easy; while it isn't my favorite task, it gets pretty easy after the first 100 or so! LOL....all technique as Tom said.

The Tubliss system may be the best of both worlds but it isn't recommended for highway use and they don't make them in 17".......which is why I just purchased two 18" Excel rims, spoke kits and hubs to make my own KLR Tubliss setup.

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I have never needed to reseat a tubeless tire in the field. Simply insert the plugs and pump some air back in and get on your way.
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The Rear wheel of a KLR650 has the safety bead ridges which causes a tubeless capable rear tire to 'snap-on' tightly. It is why many people 'fight' to break the beads down on the rear wheels during tire changing.

The Front wheel of a KLR650 is of original 'Tube Type' design. Therefore once flattened the beads usually un-seat themselves almost instantly. Will probably need to use a tow rope / tow strap or 2 tie-down straps to go around the tread and force the beads to retain air until re-seated.

But IME, 90% of all motorcycle flats from nails, screws, wire & glass are on the rear tires. The front tire clips the offending object, stands it up & the rear tire gets speared by it!

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I think, to @Voyager's point, that it would be unusual for the bead to pop off of a tubeless rim under normal circumstances, so it ought to be a plug 'n go routine.

Except in cases like @beamwalker's where he rides willy-nilly over baby heads, careens down rocky slopes, does water crossings at maximum grunt and generally rides the thing like a 250 hooner. With use like that, a cast tubless wheel will eventually get bent up and the likelihood of bead popping off the rim is increased.

But then, again, that's what lighter fluid and matches are for.

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But then, again, that's what lighter fluid and matches are for.
Haven't seen lighter fluid used, but . . . starting fluid can work wonders!

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I think, to @Voyager's point, that it would be unusual for the bead to pop off of a tubeless rim under normal circumstances, so it ought to be a plug 'n go routine.

Except in cases like @beamwalker's where he rides willy-nilly over baby heads, careens down rocky slopes, does water crossings at maximum grunt and generally rides the thing like a 250 hooner. With use like that, a cast tubless wheel will eventually get bent up and the likelihood of bead popping off the rim is increased.

But then, again, that's what lighter fluid and matches are for.
...I dunno; most times I've gotten a flat offroad (except on my KTM with Tubliss), the bead has come unseated. Maybe you guys are just luckier than I am....


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My experience is front, yes, rear, no.

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"Willy-nilly" huh Tom? Hehehehe. Thanks fellas. I will stay with tubes and technique. Hopefully I will not have to do a "field" repair 30 miles from help, but I imagine it is inevitable so practice the technique and remember that it is a 650, not the 250 my mind thinks it is until I go down and I have to pick up the heavy beast. I am on my second set of tires with just over 10,000 miles since last April, I ran a set for about 2,000 then went more aggressive , Shinko 705 to 700, now using 804,805 and like them. All that was said to ask what is the average mileage you guys get on a set of tires? I am looking forward to a trip in the next couple of months Tom. Hope you've been keeping up on your dominoes game mister.
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