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post #1 of 10 Old 05-06-2019, 04:39 PM Thread Starter
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I found this and have downloaded onto my computer. Somehow it was free. Don't know how or why, but I'm not one to complain..
Hope this link helps someone in need.

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Yes, but is this the -12 version???

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Well, I wasn't aware of it being copyright material. All I did was google KLR650 service manual pdf and it all came up. Had a free download . Even if you do not download it it is all there to read so if only read and not copied, no harm no foul. Right?

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These days, unless you wrote it yourself, pretty well everything has some kind of copyright. As a Forum we can’t be seen as promoting what could be considered copyright infringement. What you do with Google or between friends is up to you.
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Well, I wasn't aware of it being copyright material. All I did was google KLR650 service manual pdf and it all came up. Had a free download . Even if you do not download it it is all there to read so if only read and not copied, no harm no foul. Right?
Copyright law is fairly straightforward. Kawasaki writes a manual, copyrights it*, and offers it for sale. Anyone who takes that copyright material and reproduces it is violating the copyright. Anyone who makes it available without creating a sale for Kawasaki is violating copyright. Of course, once you have bought a copy in the format that it was originally offered for sale (paper, in this case) you may give that copy away, loan it, or re-sell it. You may not make copies of it and give them away or sell them.

In this case, the owner of the website that is collecting the material and offering it as a free download is clearly violating copyright law.

Whether you are violating copyright by reading copyrighted material made available by a third party is a bit fuzzy. If you do it make use of the information and to avoid purchasing a copy, then it's a violation. If you should happen to see something incidentally in the course of reading the forum's 'Latest Posts' (for example, if I were to reproduce a page containing exploded diagrams and torque values) you would not be in violation (but I would).

There are cases known as "Fair Use" where copyrighted material may be displayed and reproduced, but that's another topic.

The forum places itself in jeopardy as an accessory if it allows copyrighted material and links to copyrighted material to be displayed.

Would it ever come to anything? Probably not but we have to err on the side of caution. The music industry defends its copyrights very aggressively. The vehicle industry, not hardly. Haynes and Clymer, maybe a bit more.

No harm done. Now you know.

*one really does not have to expressly copyright material. Proving you were the originator is sufficient to have copyrights.
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Read the “What I really think” section of RKA’s latest newsletter to see what can happen if you violate copyright.

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I found this and have downloaded onto my computer. Somehow it was free. Don't know how or why, but I'm not one to complain..
Hope this link helps someone in need.

Sorry, that's copyrighted material - Tom
Wish I had seen this before the info was removed. If it's put on the internet it's fair game.
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Wish I had seen this before the info was removed. If it's put on the internet it's fair game.
So if you write a book and I buy one copy and scan it and put it on the internet for free, you would be OK with that?
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That's a dumb question and doesn't relate.
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@twiin640, Voyager's point is pretty much spot-on. Kawasaki wrote a book that they sell for $60. Somebody bought one, scanned it to a .pdf, and put it up on the internet for people to download for free.
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