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post #41 of 61 Old 09-20-2019, 06:39 PM
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Due to my monotonic, rambling vocal style, I have been compared to Bob Ross.

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Ever compared to Dick Lane?

Announced wrestling, roller derby, destruction derby, and . . . automobile and motorcycle races, all in the Los Angeles area, for YEARS! (He referred to motorcycle riders as, "drivers" in his broadcasts.)

A cartoon parody of the man, "Dick Two-Lane," announced Tom Slick's races driving the Thunderbolt Grease-Slapper in the particular segments of, "George of the Jungle."

Famous for, "Whoa, Nellie!" exclamations, has an incredibly prolific Hollywood filmography, in addition to announcing races among motorcycle "drivers."

(You're a superior announcer, compared to Dick Lane, Tom!)

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post #42 of 61 Old 09-20-2019, 07:09 PM
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I like the slug. It's useful in the same way that the stone is.

It's nice to weigh only 6 slugs.
In my college physics courses we used slugs as a unit of mass.

I, too, have a mass of about 6 slugs, damn near svelte!

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post #43 of 61 Old 09-20-2019, 07:54 PM
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"You are correct, it is a mass", Tom said reverently.
"I should not have associated it with weight", Tom said heavily.

Gee, but these are bad Swifties.

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post #44 of 61 Old 09-21-2019, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Ouch, I just got that.

Well, I completely disassembled my carburetor again and carefully inspected everything (i. e. piddled around with it). As I expected everything was completely clean. The jets are black now because of the Pine Sol. I poked a strand of wire through each and every orifice. I carefully inspected the diaphragm for pinholes or tears; the whole nine yards.

Then I glanced at one of the illustrations in the Clymer manual (page 160, Figure 45) which had an arrow pointing to a small orifice I have never payed any interest in--the Starter Jet. I tried to squirt some carb cleaner in it but it seemed plugged. I jabbed a wire strand in it and it felt plugged. So I unplugged it (I think).

Wouldn't that cause exactly the symptoms I'm experiencing? I need the enrichener when I start the engine because it's cold and my valves are slightly out of adjustment anyway. I'm not getting the compression I need. When I pull the lever towards me, however, what I'm actually doing is increasing the air with no extra fuel--the jet's plugged. I'm essentially cutting the fuel way down in the mixture just when I want to increase it.

I won't know if I've skinned this cat until my new shims arrive, but I have every expectation it will work.
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post #45 of 61 Old 09-21-2019, 06:47 PM
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Yes, the starter jet needs to be clear! This should work.

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I rest easy having received the imprimatur of a bona fide KLR sage.
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post #47 of 61 Old 09-21-2019, 09:24 PM
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I'm servicing a low mileage '08.

Cold Cranking Compression jumped from below spec of 74 psi to 93 psi Mid-spec on a '08 10,025 mile Gen 2 just yesterday. RH exhaust valve with the KACR was >.005".
Now its a 'perfectly snug' .010". And the other 3 valves are in the upper 3/4+ of specs.

The doo showed no signs of previous adjustment. The OEM spring went slack when I allowed adjustment with flywheel removed. So 1 adjustment and DONE on that overly long oem spring. I've seen worse, live. It now has an EM Doo & Torsion Spring.

The Happy Trails new gen skid plate even with my 1/4" rubber cushions had almost NOT protected the oem drain plug. There were only 2 deep scars on the underside of plate. One on the RH side of the oversized oil drain hole and one straight across the LH side of the oem drain plug itself. Would have tightened, not loosened the plug.
BUT, any harder of hit would have busted the drain boss! I'm surprised that it isn't cracked! The steel hex Head is UGLY!! I installed a low profile head plug.

And may even add THICKER rubber cushions. (Note to Dave Pelletier)

Sorry, I still don't do pics.

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What the jump the **** up and down is a Newton-meter, though? A Newton is a force that accelerates a kilogram at one meter per second.

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Now, if'n a Newton was whatever Isaac massed, say 80Kg, and given an acceleration equal to gravity at 9.8 m/s that might make some sense.
I am loath to presume to contradict a, "KLR sage," but since some confusion between "mass" and "weight" was discussed in this thread, I offer:

More complete description of ACCELERATION units involves the descriptor, PER SECOND PER SECOND, or, PER SECOND SQUARED.
For example, not, " . . . accelerates a kilogram at one meter per second," but rather: Accelerates a kilogram at one meter per second per second.

Similarly, instead of, " . . . an acceleration equal to gravity at 9.8 m/s," rather, . . . an acceleration equal to gravity at 9.8 m/s^2 (I don't know how to superscript a number, indicating "squared," if such a notation can be made in this website font).

Summarizing, "Average acceleration, measured in units of distance per time-squared (typically, meters per second per second), is the average rate at which an object's velocity changes over a given time interval." Distance per time, (e.g., as in, meters/second) alone merely designates speed, not acceleration.

"Average acceleration, measured in units of distance per time-squared (typically, meters per second per second), is the average rate at which an object's velocity changes over a given time interval."

Proof is left as an exercise for the student.


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post #49 of 61 Old 09-21-2019, 09:36 PM
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"Per Second Per Second" is as about as meaningful and as accurate as "I ain't got no", in my book.

ps, Ah jeese, you edited for explanation!

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post #50 of 61 Old 09-21-2019, 11:51 PM
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I am loath to presume to contradict a, "KLR sage," ...
"I'm no sage", Tom said spicily.

I have often, in the past, forgotten to add the ^2. I usually catch it when resolving the units in the equation and find I have a velocity when I should have an acceleration. In casual conversation, not so much.

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