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post #1 of 26 Old 10-26-2019, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Cogent shocks arrived! Rebuild linkage and swingarm bearings or just grease them?

My Cogent Moab Ultimate Pro rear shock and complete DDC kit arrived today. It was due on Monday. So yay!

I can put the rear on relatively easily over a 3 or 4 day weekend I have coming up. As I値l be removing the tire, I値l also be taking the time to service the swingarm & linkage, but it occurred to me that maybe it might be a good idea to also replace the bearings in the swingarm and linkage. My 2009 has 14,000 miles on it. And the All Balls bearing kits are not that expensive. So replace them or just grease them? What would you do?

FWIW, the front is going to wait until Thanksgiving as I知 going to completely rebuild the forks with new bushings and seals. Probably replace the steering bearings too while I知 at it.

Thanksgiving is my projected time to remove the engine for my disassembly and ship out the parts for the machine work. I値l finish the rebuild over Christmas and use the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas to install a fuse block and wiring for lights, dash, etc. since the gas tank will be off with all the plastic too.


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post #2 of 26 Old 10-27-2019, 05:43 PM
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Personally, I would only re-grease the bearings & seals of both the rear suspension & the steering, unless the Asian grease shortage and the water crossings of previous owners had already taken their toll.

My '87 is still on original rear suspension bearings and last winters new steering bearings.

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post #3 of 26 Old 10-28-2019, 09:56 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the advice. I don稚 know how much the original owner took it off road, but he farkles it nicely. The PO modified it for the street. And it came from AZ to the southern CA desert. So not much water out here to drive through.


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post #4 of 26 Old 10-28-2019, 11:10 AM
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What Paul said; unless there's been water damage due to a lack of grease, those bearings should still be fine. Steering bearings are a PITA to change so unless they are notchy, I'd personally leave them alone too other than a re-grease.

Actual install of the shock and DDC kit should only take a few hours but it's a good idea to check and grease everything. the most important thing to grease is the swingarm pivot bolt.

This may help give you an idea of how long typical components can last if maintained properly; http://watt-man.com/uploads/How_Many_Miles.pdf


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post #5 of 26 Old 10-28-2019, 11:12 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I don稚 know how much the original owner took it off road, but he farkles it nicely. The PO modified it for the street. And it came from AZ to the southern CA desert. So not much water out here to drive through.


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Hopefully he avoided High Pressure car washes also? The only way to know is to disassemble & inspect, then proceed as needed.
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post #6 of 26 Old 10-28-2019, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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Dave,

Thanks for the link to the PDF. I値l read that one today.

It痴 going to take me a while longer to do my front shocks as I知 going to perform a full renew on them. Plus, since I値l have the front end disassembled thought I might do some additional electrical work.

I知 going to break down the motorcycle over Thanksgiving as I have the week off and strip it down to just about the frame. I値l even be pulling the engine out to disassemble it and ship out components for machine work.

I知 not sure I値l ever be good enough to do a full fork rebuild in just a couple of hours. A spring swap ... maybe. I致e already got the seals and bushings though so figured I might as well just freshen it up all the way.

Pdwestern, I hadn稚 thought about the high pressure wash. I know not to use mine anywhere near a bearing though. I hope the original owners knew that too. I can say the wheel bearings looked ok when I swapped out the current set for a set I bought on eBay with 50/50 tires on them. So maybe it痴 good. Guess I値l find out shortly.


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post #7 of 26 Old 10-28-2019, 09:56 PM
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My Cogent Moab Ultimate Pro rear shock and complete DDC kit arrived today. It was due on Monday. So yay!

I can put the rear on relatively easily over a 3 or 4 day weekend I have coming up. As I値l be removing the tire, I値l also be taking the time to service the swingarm & linkage, but it occurred to me that maybe it might be a good idea to also replace the bearings in the swingarm and linkage. My 2009 has 14,000 miles on it. And the All Balls bearing kits are not that expensive. So replace them or just grease them? What would you do?

FWIW, the front is going to wait until Thanksgiving as I知 going to completely rebuild the forks with new bushings and seals. Probably replace the steering bearings too while I知 at it.

Thanksgiving is my projected time to remove the engine for my disassembly and ship out the parts for the machine work. I値l finish the rebuild over Christmas and use the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas to install a fuse block and wiring for lights, dash, etc. since the gas tank will be off with all the plastic too.


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post #8 of 26 Old 10-30-2019, 08:38 PM
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I completely agree with Dave and Paul and look forward to reading your review of your new suspension.
I don't have their DDC kit but do have the Moab shock and intiminators. It was the best money I spent on my 2003 years ago.
Been wondering if the DDC's are worth upgrading to....
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post #9 of 26 Old 10-31-2019, 11:00 AM
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I don't have their DDC kit but do have the Moab shock and intiminators. It was the best money I spent on my 2003 years ago.
Been wondering if the DDC's are worth upgrading to....
The intiminators are the one solution I haven't tried personally but I have read a couple reviews (very hard to find people that have used both) that would seem to indicate that the DDC's are a fairly noticable improvement over the Intiminators.... If you had the RT Emulators, I wouldn't bother.


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post #10 of 26 Old 10-31-2019, 11:11 AM
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they are great. i got pre load adjusters also. if ya get em i have to tool to load em so don't buy it. amazing that all you use is 5 weight fork oil(they supply it)
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