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post #1 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 09:09 AM Thread Starter
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I stink at mounting the rear tire.

SO, I have a bridgestone trail wing rear tire, the stock one didn't last very long at all. Front didn't last long either. BUT, the front tire is also a bridgestone trail wing, and went on like a dream.
The rear, first time, pinched the tube, a lot, put in new tube, tried letting sit in sun and still didn't go on. Took It to a tire shop, and it was fine for about 3,000, miles then noticed low rear tire. Took tube out, pinched spot where I pinched it again, the second time installed. Just put in a new tube, couldn't get the last part of tire on, again. Took it to a tire shop, and found I pinched it again. ( my fault for not checking to see if I pinched it again, before going to tire shop.) I have a new tube on the way and will just install it and not try to put tire on, but go right to tire shop for $10 to have them put it on.
What is a softer install tire, I can install next time I need a new rear? Im more 70/30 ,,70 on road.
I don't mind making mistakes, but this is the 3rd time.
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post #2 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 11:46 AM
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Are you putting a little air in the tube before you put it in the tire? Put in just enough to get it round, but not starting to expand. That way it can still be compressed when putting it in between the rim and tire. Then, just go slow and do not push in your irons to far. Make sure the tube is not under the iron before you start to move the bead on to the rim. Using tire lube also helps to get the tire bead into the rim. I use No Mar lube. I used this method and did not have any problems with pinching the tube. Then I got a No Mar changer and it made changing tires much easier.
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post #3 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 11:56 AM
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In the shop, I work on top of a automotive wheel & tire. So that the bike brake disc is protected & down away from my knuckles. This elevates the wheel and allows ones Knees to keep the first 2/3 of installed bead compressed into the spoke drop center so that the last 1/3 of bead can be (more) easily slipped over the rim.
Of course the tire iron flat tip can only be inserted about 1/4 - 1/2 inch over the rim lip. If inserted TOO Far you will still pinch the tube.
Also, only install 2 -3 inches of bead at a time.

Motion Pro tools makes the "Bead Buddy", which 2 or 3 of them could keep the bead down in the drop center also. As I get older & less flexible I may have to purchase a few. They might need a little modifying of the 'spoke hook' to engage on the KLR wheel.

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Proper tire installation is a matter of technique more than anything. I haven't pinched a tire for 25 years now (41 bikes so far). There are lots of youtube videos out there - some tips:
- use lube (I use WD40 but you can use a specialty lube like RuGlide or even talcum powder)
- use HD real rubber tubes
- partially inflate the tube (but not too much)
- use tire irons that don't have sharp edges
- make sure the tire opposite of your tire iron has both beads in the center of the rim.
- don't take "bites" that are too big - a little at a time.

IMO, it's best to learn to do it right so you can fix it yourself if/when the need arises.

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post #5 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 12:31 PM
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For my two cents worth, Iíve decided to try out the zip tie method when I mount my TCK-80 tires. I just havenít decided on just trying it on my workbench or buying a stand for it. Iím not going to do it on the floor I can tell you that much.
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post #6 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 12:33 PM
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Then I got a No Mar changer and it made changing tires much easier.

When not in use, does it collapse? Or is it easy to store?

Iíve been looking at a couple and at the very least want a fairly quick disassembly method and easy storage as Iíll only change them once a year or so.
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post #7 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 03:10 PM
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For my two cents worth, Iíve decided to try out the zip tie method when I mount my TCK-80 tires. I just havenít decided on just trying it on my workbench or buying a stand for it. Iím not going to do it on the floor I can tell you that much.
How wide is the spare wheel on your car, truck, jeep, trailer? A 15 inch rim is large enough ID for the biggest of sport bike brake discs. With a tire mounted, it protects mag wheel spokes from damage. One can even stack 2 automotive wheel assemblies if you have back issues.
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I use one of these that I made a stand for; welded to a 2.5" sched. 40 steel pipe and a spare car rim;



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post #9 of 44 Old 12-04-2019, 03:17 PM
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....but it only makes life a bit easier now that I'm old; I've changed dozens if not hundreds of tires just kneeling on the floor/ground.
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How wide is the spare wheel on your car, truck, jeep, trailer? A 15 inch rim is large enough ID for the biggest of sport bike brake discs. With a tire mounted, it protects mag wheel spokes from damage. One can even stack 2 automotive wheel assemblies if you have back issues.

My car doesnít have a spare tire. Just a bottle of slime and a 12v compressor. More and more vehicles have been moving this way.
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