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post #11 of 191 Old 01-12-2020, 09:37 AM
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So, you would recommend the KLX needle conversion? I've done the doohickey and the thermobob. I take it this is the next obvious step in optimizing my bike.
As I'm sure you are aware, the stock carburetor setup is pretty darn lean from just off idle to ~1/4 throttle. The KLX needle kit from Eagle Mike does a great job of evening out the mixture across the full throttle range. Hundreds of KLR riders have installed the KLX kit and have reported impressive carburetor performance improvements.

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post #12 of 191 Old 01-12-2020, 09:48 AM
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There's also a certain cadence of language, kind of odd grammar usage (or non-usage), and a "tone" that gives it away. I don't think I would have noticed it if it wasn't pointed out. Mainly, it just has a false feeling of selling something. So it's a fake review pointing to his own facebook page selling his kit. How do some people look at themselves in the mirror?
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As I'm sure you are aware, the stock carburetor setup is pretty darn lean from just off idle to ~1/4 throttle. The KLX needle kit from Eagle Mike does a great job of evening out the mixture across the full throttle range. Hundreds of KLR riders have installed the KLX kit and have reported impressive carburetor performance improvements.

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Okay. I'll order the Eagle Mike kit today. I just didn't know if it was really a big difference or a "kinda notice a difference" sort of thing.
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Just so everyone knows, sgroover is really only sgroover and lives in Georgia. Only trying to share my good news. Not sure about the writing analysis, but I assure you, I'm not a troll and only have good intentions, and no decent here.

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post #15 of 191 Old 01-12-2020, 10:29 AM
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My apologies then for letting my imagination get away from me.
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post #16 of 191 Old 01-12-2020, 10:32 AM
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I’m just here to learn more, what is the difference between this kit and the EM kit? It claims the needle is different, but does anyone have both that’s compared them?


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post #17 of 191 Old 01-12-2020, 10:34 AM
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Okay. I'll order the Eagle Mike kit today. I just didn't know if it was really a big difference or a "kinda notice a difference" sort of thing.
It's a big difference. The KLX is a must-do imho, but it took me a minute to get used to everything again (and to adjust, but that's just me) after I installed it.

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Just so everyone knows, sgroover is really only sgroover and lives in Georgia. Only trying to share my good news. Not sure about the writing analysis, but I assure you, I'm not a troll and only have good intentions, and no decent here.
…and Samuel is also Samuel. I'll be trying Dredd's needle as well and detailing my experiences with it. Good or bad, I'll call it as I see it. I do wish, though, that some more experienced guys would give it a go. It would be good to compare notes. However I understand the skepticism, given the conversation that has sprung up around this topic. But then again, the drama… iono, it kinda makes me more curious!

I think the reason groover's post sounds like an infomercial is because it's a recap of conversations that have been happening in other venues, and the points have all been refined. Unless Dredd joined back in 2018 as groover, I think we're looking at one man's honest assessment.

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Just so everyone knows, sgroover is really only sgroover and lives in Georgia. Only trying to share my good news. Not sure about the writing analysis, but I assure you, I'm not a troll and only have good intentions, and no decent here.

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Sammy, sorry about that. Personally, I am oh so suspect of someone that shows up claiming their new cure-all carb needle will fix the (un-related) oil consumption problem, shamelessly plugging their jetting kit (being sold on eBay BTW) on this forum, AND the advrider KLR Only thread (posts since deleted).

So, if you look at the Facebook link, you'll see the contact info, Lloydminster Small Engine Repair; i.e. self serving commercial post.
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It is kinda weird, perhaps bad, form. Contact info and all, and the argument laid out all purdy like. For the record, I'm skeptical of the idea that needle circuit pollution in the pilot circuit is responsible for the oil buring we all know and love. I think Tom and Paul's oil mods approach this in a more plausible manner. I'm not saying erratic mixture can't cause oil burning (perhaps, I have no idea), but to my thinking, excess pressure at the crank sounds super plausible. Especially since in my own experience, oil consumption is very tightly linked to >5K RPM driving.

That said, I've messed around with the carb a lot. I've done the 22¢ mod and the KLX needle, stepping through a ton (really, a lot) of slight adjustments in order to dial it in according to my, unfortunately novice, perception. And I think the carb is ripe for new developments, much like the oil system was. I'm not saying Dredd's needle is good, I have no idea. I haven't installed it, but I'm curious about it, and I'm not seeing any red flags outside of personality approach. So I'm going to give it a shot.

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Sammy, sorry about that. Personally, I am oh so suspect of someone that shows up claiming their new cure-all carb needle will fix the (un-related) oil consumption problem, shamelessly plugging their jetting kit (being sold on eBay BTW) on this forum, AND the advrider KLR Only thread (posts since deleted).

So, if you look at the Facebook link, you'll see the contact info, Lloydminster Small Engine Repair; i.e. self serving commercial post.
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