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post #1 of 10 Old 03-08-2020, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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Little bearing in oil

When changig my oil in my klr650, idropped the oil magnetic drain plug
The magnet came out but also had a small ball bearing attached?
Could the bearing have been under the magnet as a spacer? Or,where could it have come from?
I'm starting to freak out, the engine made no unusual noises.
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post #2 of 10 Old 03-08-2020, 10:48 PM
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You know that happened to me many moons ago. I had the magnet come out of the drain plug off of what I can't remember... but I could have swore a ball bearing came out of the same time. I thought to myself why in the world would they make a drain plug with a ball bearing underneath the magnet? ..... So I dismissed it. But now reading your post it brought it back to mind.

When you reassemble the drain plug does it look like it works but the bearing in it? Like everything lines up?
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since bearings in the oil isn't a very good thing, I'd try to find out for sure so first thing......what brand drain plug? Figure that out and give the manufacturer a call and ask them.


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Wow!
ktm513 & knappyfeet, is / was your magnetic drain plugs made from an Aluminum plug?

ktm513, If you measure the hole depth, is it deeper than the magnet is long? Can you measure the bearing diameter accurately to the .0005 inch?

I can not understand how a magnet could possibly 'Fall Out' of a steel drain plug! The magnetism should keep them inside of a steel plug. And even in the steel plugs they are usually epoxied in or crimped in.

But I do have 2 used steel magnetic drain plugs in my odd collection of parts. #1 I believe to be an EM plug with a pretty strong magnet.
The other is totally unknown and hasn't enough magnetism to Hold Itself attached to anything!

The EM has 'flush mounted' magnet and the Unknown has 'recessed mounting', both appear to have 'crimped in' retention and are fairly large diameter magnets in relationship to the 12mm plug size.

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mystery ball bearing

ktm513,
Any chance the ball bearing was already on your garage floor when then drain plug fell, and they were instantly attracted to each other? Also, consider fishing around inside the engine with a magnet to see if you come up with any more.
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I recently ordered and received a Ricochet skid plate and a Tusk low profile magnetic drain plug for my KLR.
I installed the skid plate and put the drain plug in a safe place so I could install it at the next oil change.
I was going to see if the magnet could be pulled out to see if there is a bearing under it but I can't remember where I put it.
I have a couple places in the shop where I keep small parts for the bikes and a shelf where I keep bigger stuff and it should have been in one
of these locations. I'm sure I will find it. It was only a week ago.

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Iíve heard of some failures of the Tusk magnetic drain plug. Have one in my tool box but reluctant to use it. As always Eagle Mike seems like the way to go.

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I recently ordered and received a Ricochet skid plate and a Tusk low profile magnetic drain plug for my KLR.
I installed the skid plate and put the drain plug in a safe place so I could install it at the next oil change.
I was going to see if the magnet could be pulled out to see if there is a bearing under it but I can't remember where I put it.
I have a couple places in the shop where I keep small parts for the bikes and a shelf where I keep bigger stuff and it should have been in one
of these locations. I'm sure I will find it. It was only a week ago.

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Iíve heard of some failures of the Tusk magnetic drain plug. Have one in my tool box but reluctant to use it. As always Eagle Mike seems like the way to go.

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terry_g,
When you do find your new Tusk drain plug, if their included washer is Stuck to the Magnet, throw that Steel Washer into your spare parts bin and Re-Use your original Gasket!

The other problem that has been seen with the Tusk drain plugs is that their heads have split radially from the 6 points of the allan socket. They were Definitely Low Quality a couple of years ago. Maybe they have improved?
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There are often two plugs on the bottom of Kawasaki DP bikes. The one with the ball bearing and spring is for the shift drum detent. Put it back in carefully without touching your shift lever. Look farther to the front of the engine case and you will find the oil drain plug. jwstx
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post #10 of 10 Old 03-11-2020, 08:39 PM
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There are often two plugs on the bottom of Kawasaki DP bikes. The one with the ball bearing and spring is for the shift drum detent. Put it back in carefully without touching your shift lever. Look farther to the front of the engine case and you will find the oil drain plug. jwstx
The KLR650 does NOT have an Externally accessible shift drum detent.

It has a rolling wheel on a sprung lever, internal of the clutch cover.

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