Attempting to drain my IMS 10 gal tank and the drain bung spins in the tank...(on both sides!) So just to be more clear, the drain plug and bung are turning together - looks like the bung is a brass hex that is cast into the poly tank.
Anyone run into this?
When I get them apart, I wonder how well (or not) a hot glue "weld" would work.
What would you guys do?
I'll suggest that someone put thread locker on the brass bung & it has more grip on the brass bung that the plastic had.
Sorry to say that you are probably 'bunged' forever and the bungs will now probably leak like a sieve. Teflon thread tape would have been more appropriate.
People accidentally permanently attach the plastic radiator shrouds onto Gen2 rubber well nuts and onto real dirt bikes on a regular basis by using Loc-Tite in places that it should NEVER be Used.
I'll suggest that someone put thread locker on the brass bung & it has more grip on the brass bung that the plastic had.
Sorry to say that you are probably 'bunged' forever and the bungs will now probably leak like a sieve. Teflon thread tape would have been more appropriate.
"Bunged" :laugh3:
Yeah, that sounds reasonable since both of 'em are "screwed". I think the PO did both tape and loctite since I think I see some teflon tape poking out on one of them.
If anyone has successfully repaired such a goof, I'm all ears - Lotta things I'd rather spend money on than a new tank.
I'm thinking a glue gun is at least worth a shot...Will post results.
just spit balling... maybe clean it all out, bolts, bungs and fuel then pack JB Weld in there til it fills the void and hope like hell that it seals off from fuel forever???
just spit balling... maybe clean it all out, bolts, bungs and fuel then pack JB Weld in there til it fills the void and hope like hell that it seals off from fuel forever???
Yep, I'm thinking something like that - Plastic weld or something.
For anyone following, interested or facing the same thing, here's something fairly promising - https://youtu.be/CE1iNRhIGxY
Speed video to 2x and you get the idea.
You may want to look in the phone book for a shop that does actual plastic welding. Bumper shops may be a good place to start. Otherwise try contacting IMS to see if they sell repair kits.
Got the bungs out, but two of the cap bolts have become un-bonded as well. I cut them off and the remaining studs are proving much trickier to get out than the bungs were. The previous maintainer definitely used some sort of thread sealant on the bungs, and I'm thinking he/she did on the cap assy too.
Tried a heat gun and gently pulling the nuts out of their sockets, but it was causing a lot of distortion to the cap opening so I went back to the drawing board.
Anybody have ideas on something that might penetrate and soften thread sealant? I have some gasket remover on them now. Will post results.
A desperate lunge, perhaps, but . . . why not contact IMS customer service regarding repair kits (if any, as mentioned above), and even . . . possibility of sending the tank back to the factory for repair. The latter, an expensive approach, but . . . maybe more affordable than a new IMS tank.
You guys are right: I should give it a shot and find out for myself what their support is like.
Was thinking I'd try the sometimes-successful JB Plastic Weld repair with some All-Seal. Still may, depending on what I find out from IMS.
I always carry a spare vacuum pump rebuild kit with me, and what I realized this time was - that would have been moot if I couldn't get into my tank on some eternal dirt road deep on the reservation. So for that reason, I may look for used parts and go back to stock.
Yeah, lighter is better for the most part. I know the 6.6 IMS does a pretty good job protecting the rad and I've added a JNS rad guard to mine which is a very nice (and light) pce. .....I've crashed (cough) a "few" (cough) times and it's held up great.
I remember GoMotor saying he didn't think the 10 gallon was that strong....no experience with them myself as almost 7 galls is more than enough for what I do - in fact I seldom fill it all the way up.
Nah. I've read that from others before too.
Hate to wax cynical so early in the morning, but for the most part nowadays, once a business reaches a certain level of success, they can't be bothered with customer support unless it's directly tied to a new purchase.
What did you end up doing with your 10 gal tank, Tom?
I really don't think they give two shits about anything after the product leaves their warehouse. Doesn't matter if your pump fails, the tank leaks, the dissimilar metals corrode together, the poorly designed inserts spin, the petcock leaks, meh. There's not much use in trying with those guys.
They are like Ruger, they make kits. You buy their plastic tank kit, clean the swarf and junk out of it, and finish making it at your house, then use it. Once it is installed and working, it is a great tank; a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
They refused to accept that the Mikuni pump had a record of a .00000000000000001% failure rate in ultralights (I imagine that if ultra lights fell out of the sky due to a pump we'd hear about it), snow machines and watercraft, yet KLRs were failing right and left. Klapped out KLR riders were pleased and happy that IMS would send them a new pump to shut them up (which, unbeknownst to them because they never checked it, would also fail) instead of asking, "Why did my pump fail?".
It was the article on your page that prompted me to finally pull that pump out of there and check & replace the diaphragm. Glad to have explored this in my garage instead of somewhere near Jarbidge.
Was it domed? If so, it was another 'failure waiting to be found'. I really rather enjoyed that my first failure showed up at 70mph in the I405 HOV lane right near Sunset Blvd. Sadly, I was too stupid to figure things out and it happened again at the same spot. It's what comes of fueling up in Buttonwillow, CA. It puts you right about at Sunset Blvd when you need the pump.
At first, I thought that it was just happening to people that rode in rather hot environments with lots of direct sunlight, such as the Australian outback and the deserts of the American southwest. I found out that wasn't true.
No, surprisingly, it was still pretty flat, in spite of my environment! (Central AZ). Last summer, I put 9.9 some gallons in it, so it was working, but the way I saw it, it was a failure waiting to fail, especially since I bought the bike in 2016.
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