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post #1 of 36 Old 01-06-2016, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
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Do I need to put a new doohickey on a 2016 KLR?
The salesman looked at me like I was an idiot. And had never heard of a doohickey.
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post #2 of 36 Old 01-07-2016, 07:32 AM
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Latter-day doohickeys appear rather robust; however . . . spring tension issues have surfaced.

I'd think you needn't worry about a doohickey upgrade through your factory warranty period (not that a doohickey upgrade would void your warranty).

Nowadays, doohickey anxiety appears directly proportional to Internet access and activity. Or, ALL stock doohickeys are, "ticking time bombs!"
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Do I need to put a new doohickey on a 2016 KLR?
The salesman looked at me like I was an idiot. And had never heard of a doohickey.
Sounds like that salesman knows very little about the KLR.
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Powersports salesmen spend a lot of time researching and keeping on top of most models of the three, four or more brands their dealership offers; mostly on their own time I can tell you because I was one. However, the reality is that they sell about 20 sport bikes and 15 cruisers to every dually or pureplay dirt bike, so you can see where their time naturally goes. Unless they’re a dual sport or off-road enthusiast, they probably never heard of the klr doohickey. If they are, they know it as a beaten topic to stay clear of on AdvRider … until they buy one.

I've had dirt and dual sports but what I’ve learned about the KLR650 is that it requires more operational and functionality mods/corrections than any bike I’ve ever seen in almost 5 decades of riding and ‘renching bikes. I wont go through the whole list of funny names (doohickey, spongebob, 22 cent mod) as it’s been done many times in many threads on many forums. What I will say is that I have a long list of “things” I both need to do and want to do to my 5 week old 2016 KLR, but I’ve staged the work over time so that I can actually fit a ride in on the damn thing once and awhile between all the freaking ‘renching.

As for the doohickey, I plan to replace the tensioner lever and spring at somewhere around 4,000--5,000 miles. After culling all the threads and vids on this topic, many of which seem to get contentious, I finally found a vid that visually showed exactly what the problem is so I could make my own decision.

Plus, how can you not trust a motorcycle mechanic with a German accent and named Jorgen?

Of the 16:45 minute video, the meat of the problems with the GEN2 KLR tensioner are covered at 4:20 – 7:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsYTaI1vL08

Essentially, Jorgen points out in the video that the tensioner lever itself continues to be flawed because (i) it’s not firmly mounted with too much play and (ii) it’s design limits the adjustment range to only a small portion of the slot implying that it's not enough for proper operation of the lever. The other issue is that the tensioner spring becomes sprung and all but useless in a very short amount of time. The spring in the vid had sprung by 6500 kilometers or 4000 miles. Apparently, once sprung they also have a tendency to break.

Jorgen replaces the lever and spring with the Eagle Mike doohickey and torsion spring, which is my plan as well. The parts and tools for the doohickey/spring mod are individually $157.65 from Eagle Mikes, but he sells the whole package bundled up for $138. There may be some ops to fab some of the tools and save even some more.

That’s my story and I’m sticking by it.
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Sounds like that salesman knows very little about the KLR.
Or, perhaps . . . the Internet!

The OP is in Australia; however . . . the reaction from the dealership is not unlike that of US dealerships . . . I think most aftermarket doohickey implants are performed by KLR owners, not shops, thus . . . dealership personnel remain largely unaware of the horrors of doohickeydom . . .
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I've had dirt and dual sports but what I’ve learned about the KLR650 is that it requires more operational and functionality mods/corrections than any bike I’ve ever seen in almost 5 decades of riding and ‘renching bikes. I wont go through the whole list of funny names (doohickey, spongebob, 22 cent mod) as it’s been done many times in many threads on many forums. What I will say is that I have a long list of “things” I both need to do and want to do to my 5 week old 2016 KLR, but I’ve staged the work over time so that I can actually fit a ride in on the damn thing once and awhile between all the freaking ‘renching.
I've had 38 motorcycles (that I can recall) and while the KLR (as a budget dual purpose bike) benefits greatly from some upgrades, it doesn't REQUIRE any of them. The "doohickey" is the only one that could be considered somewhat critical......and with the Gen2 it's far less critical than it was on the Gen1. EVERY other upgrade IMO, may make the bike better but they don't NEED to be done.

....that all said, both my KLR's have benefited from extensive upgrades; I've spent about $3k on each of them.....but it prevented me from spending double my investment for ONE KTM 690....which is what would be in my garage in the KLR's place otherwise. Certainly a KTM 690 doesn't need many mods; KTM's mantra "ready to race" rings true but 90% of dual purpose riders don't need that level of capability and the KLR allows people to chose to spend as much or as little as they want to tailor their bike to their individual needs.



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Bill makes a good point about salesmen and the wide product line they must be (somewhat) knowledgeable about. I often know more about a bike/car/truck or whatever than the salesman when I go to buy something because I've researched one particular model.

Some salesmen have never heard of the "doohickey" and some chose to pretend they haven't heard of it. The term "doohickey" is something that enthusiasts made up; maybe refer to it as the "somewhat problematic counterbalance chain adjustment lever" and see if that gets you anywhere! haha!

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Do I need to put a new doohickey on a 2016 KLR?
The salesman looked at me like I was an idiot. And had never heard of a doohickey.
Darryl2308,
No need to search any farther than this forum for a Good Video about the Doo-Hickey and Spring. Our own Tom Schmitz (screen name 'souperdoo') has a couple.

http://www.klrforum.com/2008-klr650-...ng-spring.html

I have a Big Problem with Jorgens doo-hickey video, he is using the Older Original Torsion Spring. The 7:00 mounting hole is No Longer Valid! LeftCoastKLRs instructions are out-dated as well, unless one reads the fine print.

The zip-lock baggie, which EagleMike packages his Torsion Spring in tells the proper location.
The current proper Torsion Spring mounting hole is to be drilled at 5:00-5:30.
I keep the hole in/on the flat surface of the case.
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Thank you everybody. I'm not good on the tools so I'd have to get the job done by a pro.
Will call by correct name at dealerships from now on.
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I believe a salesman is like a weather man. It's best to check it out for yourself.
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