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post #1 of 18 Old 10-30-2011, 09:14 AM Thread Starter
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What's yer noggin worth ?

What do you spend on your noggin ? Yep, Helmets are expensive, and probably over priced in most cases. But, don't fall into the trap of just any dot/snell approved helmet. While approving helmets is a whole other topic, lets just say there are some pretty poor helmets that are approved. I am becoming more aware of some of the trash I see people wearing called a helmet. I know, at least they are wearing something. To me, if you are consious enough to put one on your head, make it worth while. I have been riding since 1973, and have tested a few thru the years involuntarily. I'm not even gonna try and cover all of the helmets I have takin dirt samples with, but there are 3 that come to mind


1979- 3/4 Bell
Lost control of a 750 K1 Honda on Rt 16 in WV. Ended up with various contusions etc... broke the helmet. cracked it actually. At the time it was considered an expensive helmet. There were other cheaper helmets around, but the bell felt good and my head did'nt move around. Probably saved my life.

2008- fulmer Modus One of the cheaper helmets I have ever owned and I payed for it. While riding fast (ATGATT) on some dried red clay roads lost'er and was slammed to the ground. While the helmet absorbed the impact the helmet itself moved around on my head giving me a couple contusions and concussion. It was my first and ONLY modular helmet and was a midrange helmet. I got off lucky



2011- shoei Hornet. full Face. hit the pavement hard. Missed a turn in Rural Ohio slidding into guardrails then flipping/highsiding several more feet down the road. Hit hard enough to crack the inside of my helmet liner as designed. knocked me out and I ended up with a minor concussion. Helmet didn't move around and probably saved my life



Ya, if you're wondering,all three were my fault. Gonna happen when you ride. It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

Moral of the story, spend money on your gear. No matter how many times you change bikes, your gear stays with you. Bite the bullet, spend the cash if you wanna go home. Save for it if you have to. This summer there were several deaths of motorcycle wrecks that were not that bad. helmets would have saved their lives. One paticular was a 40 mph laydown. Nothing broken, but died of head trauma. I also wear atgatt. On the last wreck, after sliding down the road for several feet, absolutly no roadrash. If you're gonna go cheap you're gonna pay.


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post #2 of 18 Old 10-30-2011, 09:33 AM
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2011- shoei Hornet. full Face. hit the pavement hard. Missed a turn in Rural Ohio slidding into guardrails then flipping/highsiding several more feet down the road. Hit hard enough to crack the inside of my helmet liner as designed. knocked me out and I ended up with a minor concussion. Helmet didn't move around and probably saved my life

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Ya, if you're wondering,all three were my fault. Gonna happen when you ride. It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

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Dude slow down. Pushing it on the street is a bad idea.

Plenty of riders have never crashed on the street. Sure stuff happens beyond your control but blowing turns is preventable.

No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him. 1 Cor 2:9

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I buy what fits my noggin. While I notice the price, its not really a factor when figuring which manufacturer to buy from because they all seem to be for different sizes and types of heads. HJC fits my head nicely so I stick with HJC. They just happen to be a lower priced helmet (in most cases). Ive tried on some of the better known and more expensive (Shoei, Arai for example) and the shape just doesnt work for me. I bought and tried a Scorpion helmet as well, it fit me well in the store but as I wore it in, it got loose, so back to HJC for me. BTW, the Scorpion was much better quality but it just didnt fit well enough for me to continue using it.
I also wear a modular helmet, thats my little compromise for comfort and ease of use (damn glasses).
On a side note, the number of accidents a person has shouldnt be a source of pride (unless that number is 0) or a right of passage, it means you're doing something wrong.

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HA, I'm not blowin my horn or braggin about a right of passage. That's one problem with the internet is it does'nt show or transfer tone. I ride dirt and ride it as fast as I can when that's what I'm doin. Now for street. The wreck in 1979 was attributted to youth and stupidty. The other two not so much. Riding dirt is what it is, dirt,ruts, mud , etc... The last wreck this year wasn't due to speed, it was due to inattention. I'm mearly pointing out what happened. I'm not a speed demon etc. Sice I've been on the road in 75 I have never recieved a ticket of anykind on a motorcycle with the exception of this last one due to property damage (guardrail). I DO NOT use the street/road as a race track. I ride thousands of miles a year. An average year is 20,000 + In the last 5 years I have clocked well over a 100,000. I wasn't trying to come of as an expert or any such thing. Mearly pointing out that what's on the market isn't always what they portray as far as safety standards go. My SOLE concern was to get the point across that no matter how long you ride, at sometime or another, you are going to go down. So please don't try to go as cheap as possible to save a few bucks. Gear is expensive and hard to come by with what they ask for it. But I have a gear fund and add to it regularly. A few bucks here, a few bucks there. I can't afford to go out and buy $500 helmets and $300 pants when I want to. If a person is in the belief that they are not gonna go down, well, I have never,and I mean never,met a rider that hasn't kissed the blacktop or ground at least once in their lifetime,providing they have rode for awhile. Sorry if this sounds like a rant. Just thought maybe a lightbulb might go off or help someone make a decision on gear. And to answer your statement ray h, yes I was doing something wrong on all counts, that's why I crashed

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post #5 of 18 Old 10-30-2011, 02:09 PM
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I hate hearing about and seeing riders go down. But they're great reminders and critical to keeping us safe. It's interesting to hear someone's reviews on helmets based on their personal experiences. Glad to hear your brain bucket contained the mess.

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Everybody's noggin is different, and everybody's choice in helmet is an individual one.

I'm well known for having a head that ain't worth more than about $10, maybe $15 if I'm having a good Swifty day.

For the past few years I've been wearing some pretty inexpensive helmets. A helmet that meets DOT or Snell spec will do what it says it will do. Beyond that it's a matter of comfort, features, and perceived value. After a few inexpensive helmets I got the urge to splurge and buy something that would be more satisfactory from a comfort and features standpoint.

Went down to the helmet store and basically said "Bring me helmets to try on!" and, except for looking out of the thing, kept my eyes closed.

I tried on most of the helmets at least three times, a different one every time. Spent nearly an hour doing it.

There was one model that just fit better than the others each time. I decided that was the one I needed to have, looked at the price, choked, and paid for it. It actually was a helmet that I would not have considered, since it's supposed to be a 'race' (Shoei X12) helmet. I couldn't argue with the comfort level and the fit, though.

Dang, but I hope I'm going to be happy with it for five years...

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Split my first K-Mart helmet in 1979 on a Bultaco Sherpa-T hitting a low branch. Went over the handlebars in 1988 with a woman in a Renault hit my brand (freaking) new 88 FX-SPR with a good shoei that didn't get a scratch (no, I don't know how that happened either but I did replace the helmet anyway). Ride with two Nolans now, one that's too heavy and one I just don't like. Both seem well made enough for now. I've lost a lot of friends (6 and counting) since 1980 on bikes. Some self-eliminated (say Ninja meets semi at 100+) and some were taken out by morons. Only one had a DOT helmet (Ninja guy) on, but at least two would have made it if they'd worn a real helmet. My wife called today because another biker was taken out by a moron. No matter how much insurance I get, she still insists that I wear reasonably good helmets. She must be in a rut.
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Since I started buying my own helmets (not a kid) I have worn HJC. They fit me well. They test well. They are cheap (bonus). Right now I have a Joe Rocket Carbon Fiber helmet, but it is made by HJC. I am not concerned about it's ability to protect me. If I were to buy a more expensive helmet it would be to cut down wind noise, different venting, etc.

Lucky, I've never tested one.




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KLRMike: I wanted to mention I have had 4 incidents of gathering asphalt/Alaskan gravel in about 45 years of riding over 250,000 miles of travel. Speed(too much)was a factor in one of the four. As reported in late May, I am fairly certian that the full AFX helmet saved not just my neck&brain, but my life. I agree w/Tom re:fit. I know what I WILL NOT buy when purchasing,but after that it's almost all about fit.

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We are all in different places financially…. I don’t care if you go to “Salvation Armani” (HAHAHA) and get your self a helmet that you can afford… DO IT… and WEAR IT.
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