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post #1 of 25 Old 06-10-2012, 04:25 PM Thread Starter
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ATGATT --- Yeah, yeah, yeah I get it already.

I've decided to fork up the money and get the gear. I'm looking into it and quite frankly am overwhelmed by it all.

My current set up isn't exactly very good and I've been putting off addressing the problem.


I'm usually a $15 pair of jeans and cheap t shirt kind of guy, so this will, by far be the most expensive clothing I'll ever buy. Consequently, I have some requirements...

Some general requirements:
-I would like it to be a good value. Cheap is good, but not at the expense of quality workmanship.
-I want it to last a long time.
-I want to be protected and comfortable.
-I don't really mind being cold as much as I mind being hot.

I drive in the cold and hot (I live in Missouri and drive year round)...~10 - 105 degrees Fahrenheit. I drive in the rain too.

If there exists an all in one solution, great! Though I think I'd prefer multiple suits so they wear more evenly (have a longer life).

So, I think this is a good list of my needs:
-Rain gear
-Cold weather gear
-Warm weather gear
-(It would be nice if the cold and warm weather gear transition to each other some how, perhaps a removable liner) ...heck I could just wear a sweater underneath.
-Boots
-Gloves
-Body Armor?

About the motorcycle body armor...how much does it help? Like can a back brace be the difference between a fractured vertebrae and walking away with some bumps and bruises? Or are they just to prevent bumps and bruises? (I'm completely ignorant about this, take it easy on me. )

Basically I'm confused by all the options. I keep looking at retailers and they are trying to sell things...not answer my questions. I don't know much about these things. Anyone have any good resources/suggestions? Is a budget of 300 dollars reasonable?

FWIW, Frog toggs and Nelson Rigg have been recommended to me and seem like a quality value options for rain gear.

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post #2 of 25 Old 06-10-2012, 04:52 PM
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Man, good luck sorting through the answers you might get to this question. Whereas the retailers provide too few questions, you're probably going to be overwhelmed by choices here as everybody wears and likes different stuff.

Hopefully you're not cursed with being large, tall and fat. That complicates matters even worse.

If you're of average size, I would recommend narrowing down your list and maybe trying to buy some used gear on Ebay, where you could most likely get high-quality stuff for the same price you're going to pay for something new and of lesser quality.

My gear is kind of a half-assed collection of stuff: some motorcycle-specific, some of it "farm-specific" but I still wear it.

My jacket has "armored panels" in the back and on the arms. I like that it's there, but don't put much faith in it saving me from anything but cuts and road rash.

I use a mesh jacket with a removable liner, but I've heard some say that a solid jacket will actually keep you cooler than a mesh one when it's hot out.

In my opinion, the best way to deal with cold-weather riding is getting outer clothes (jacket and pants) that allow you to layer underneath depending on how cold it is. You don't want them to be too big, but big enough you can layer underneath.

If you order online, be sure to familiarize yourself with their return policy. A lot of places will let you do a free, one-time return in order to exchange for a larger or smaller size. Others don't. You don't want to eat into your clothing budget sending stuff back when it doesn't fit because the sizes on some of this stuff can be way off from what you think you need, even if you use their "measurement charts."

My opinion? Save a large chunk for your gloves and get some high-quality gloves. The last thing you want messed up is your hands and they're likely to bear the brunt of an impact if you try to brace yourself going down. Again, spend money on good, quality, armored-type, abrasion-resistant gloves.



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Pretty much all my stuff has come from newenough.com now MCgear.com. Look at their clearance stuff. Find decent stuff cheap. They do a little write up about all the gear. Great folks, too. And the gloves are a good call. I musta bought 20 pair of "cheap" gloves, before I got my Held 2 years ago.




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Thanks guys.

planalp, I figure that sorting through 5 or 10 varied consumer reviews will give better insight than looking at the website of hundreds of retailers.

A website will never tell you "Oh, our zippers stop working after three months right when your 90 day warranty ends." or "The specifications say 100%, waterproof. Don't believe it!" for instance.

Then there are also small tidbits like what lockjaw said, look for clearance stuff from a reputable dealer.

Also, the advice to check how the companies do returns is a great idea.



One last thing: Is 300 dollars a reasonable budget?

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One last thing: Is 300 dollars a reasonable budget?
If you've been looking at gear online, you've probably noticed $300 won't get you too far on the list you noted in your original post.

That's why some of my stuff is from online motorcycle gear retailers and some of it is from Tractor Supply.



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If you've been looking at gear online, you've probably noticed $300 won't get you too far on the list you noted in your original post.

That's why some of my stuff is from online motorcycle gear retailers and some of it is from Tractor Supply.
....wishful thinking. Suspension of disbelief, ect. lol

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....wishful thinking. Suspension of disbelief, ect. lol
If nothing else, do what I did and just pick up what you can as funds are available. Even clearance riding gear costs a lot.

I intended to replace my Carhartt pants with some riding pants and never did and probably never will. I like them and they work well. I suppose dedicated "riding pants" might offer more protection, but the heavy Carhartts with jeans underneath are better than nothing.

I also still wear my Tractor Supply ranch-style Wellington boots when I ride and have no inclination to replace them.

I originally used a standard yellow PVC construction-worker type yellow rain suit. I ordered that online instead of buying it at TS because they don't sell 6x rain suits at TS and it takes a big-ass rain suit to get on over all that other stuff.

I found the jacket worked extremely well, but even the 6x bib-type pants with suspenders were never long enough and I always ripped them. I replaced them with a $30 set of fabric-type rain pants I found on Ebay and liked them so much I also ordered the jacket.

For rain boots I use the standard black rubber buckle-type "overshoes" from TS. Ain't no rain penetrating those things. I was concerned they might be too bulky for the shifter and brake pedals but they're not. When I'm riding, I don't even notice I have them on.

Probably my biggest splurge was a set of those lobster-claw type rain gloves I ordered from some place in New Zealand for $60. They're worth every penny I paid for them. Wet gloves really suck.



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This also depends on HOW you are going to ride. When I am commuting in cool/cold weather, I have a one piece Fieldsheer suit that I got online for $199. I treated it with Nikwax wash in water repellant and it is now waterproof (although it is advertised as waterproof, I learned the hard way Fieldsheer stuff is NOT). It has the padding in all the right places, is easy to don and doff, and it was cheap. It is not a good choice if you are going to be riding off road, IMO. For other riding I wear separate pieces. Easier to move around and more comfortable when I go into someplace for lunch.

I use a Frogg Togg suit. I like it, but I don't like the collar area. It doesn't seal tight enough for me.

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$300 is reasonable IF you're not counting the helmet in there.
In order to get the best deals you'll have to pay some for shipping as you'll be ordered from multiple sites.

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About the motorcycle body armor...how much does it help? Like can a back brace be the difference between a fractured vertebrae and walking away with some bumps and bruises? Or are they just to prevent bumps and bruises? (I'm completely ignorant about this, take it easy on me. )

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Can't speak to the other topics but three weeks ago, the ground came up and knocked me off my bike. hit me in the elbow and shoulder. Right on the pads. Didn't even know my shoulder was bruised until the next day. best $150 I ever spent.
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