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post #1 of 16 Old 04-19-2013, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Why No Plastic?

I just signed up to the forum today just to share this info that ticks me off. I emailed Acerbis to ask them why they don't offer plastic for the KLR. This is how that went:

Hi, I don't have any questions about an order because you don't make any products for my bike. I would love to see a plastics kit for the KLR 650. NOBODY makes one except the oem and the oem is ridiculously expensive. There has to be thousands if not tens of thousands of KLR riders out there that would like to be able purchase aftermarket plastic for their KLR. KLR 650's are ridden offroad and because they aren't the most adept offroad bike, they get dumped all the time. There is a HUGE market for KLR plastics!!!! Better yet, a "Dakar" style kit would also be totally awesome.
Please pass the word on to the powers that be over there at Acerbis. You manufacture quality products, you have the capability, I want to purchase a plastics kit from you.
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Aaron

This is the very prompt response I got:

Aaron,



We manufacture plastics based on minimum quantities fulfilled and bikes manufactured. Unfortunately, as of current, we have no plans on making plastics for the KLR. I am sorry I couldnít be more help and if you have any other questions that I can help you with, please let me know.



Thanks,




Adam Quarles




I just can't believe NO company in a position to easily manufacture body components for ANY model KLR does not recognize the potential market profitability of doing so.
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I would bet the # of KLRs is not as many as you think it is. In my area, any dual sport is a rare sighting. For every dual sport or KLR, there is 20 harleys to make parts for, 10 crotch rockets, and an assload of goldwings and the like. Personally I am not hurt too bad by the cost of plastics because 1) there aren't that much of them on the bike to begin with, 2) if I bust up the bike a little it just has character, I dont feel like I need to replace it, and 3) the parts are already cheaper than comparable parts for a sport bike so it already feels cheaper to me.

That said, if you think its profitable, maybe you ought to go into business?

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I'm sure there aren't as many KLR's as there are Harleys, or even YZF 250's.
My point is, a company like Acerbis is already tooled up and making plastics for dozens of dirtbikes. There are only two body styles for the KLR. If they can make plastic for every body style of every Japanese motorcross bike for every production year and make money at it, then how hard can it be to add two body styles worth of plastic for the KLR? The KLR has been in production for soooo long, I would venture to guess there are thousands of pre-'08 KLR's out there with broken plastic. Maybe some of those owners don't care about the plastic, but alot of owners like to spruce up their bikes too.
I own a '09 and the radiator shroud plastic is like $120 for one side, the side cover is like $80. I don't care if the plastic is a little busted up, but I don't want to spend that kind of money when it's obliterated and I have no choice but to replace it. Alot of people just want to change colors too.

As far as starting my own plastics business? Ya wouldn't that be nice, unfortunately I don't have tens of thousands of dollars of start-up capital.
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Welcome to the site first of all.....nothing like jumping in with both feet....excellent start! Love it!

As for the costs to get moulds made for each piece I would bet you would be hard pressed to get a mould made for under $5000......well maybe much cheaper if you went off shore as they all seem to.....augh! But that means you must sell a crap load of these things to get the cost covered. You can't add the costs of the plastic machines as they are already there as you say, it's just the moulds that the liquid plastic flows into. I used to make moulds for foam for car seats....it took almost a week to make a simple mould. Different I know but still time consuming if done the same fashion. I know if the moulds are done using a CNC they could be spat out rather quickly but you still need to set it all up etc.....time is money.

I do agree with you 100% though....we need an after market source for plastics.
You can buy better different fairings such as the Britannia Composites fairing, I have one it is the cat's ass....perfect! Very expensive though at $750 when I bought it 6 years ago.

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I guess it doesn't do you any good now, but I'm wondering if, over the next few years, larger and cheaper 3D printers will allow us to create and replace motorcycle parts in our own towns or even homes? Maybe businesses will pop up that can scan and recreate parts like that with ABS? Maybe even create fairings that fit the bike, but are completely different from the stock ones? That would be cool, eh?

It seems a business like that could make a go of it as long as they were able to replicate parts off a wide variety of items, like household appliances, cars, you name it. I suppose there would be patent/legal issues, though.



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Acerbis did make a fork/rotor cover set for the KLR once upon a time. don't know why they quit. Demand drives the market.


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I'll throw my hat in. I think it is also a question of desire. Lots of people are happy with duct tape, zip ties, glue, and bedliner.

I wouldn't know anyone like that though...




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"Acerbis did make a fork/rotor cover set for the KLR once upon a time. don't know why they quit. Demand drives the market."

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I guess they did offer that one product, but how can they determine market demand for radiator shrouds and side covers when they've never even offered them? I get that KLR plastic may be a "niche" market, but niche markets can be very lucrative especially when the only competition is the high priced OEM.
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"Acerbis did make a fork/rotor cover set for the KLR once upon a time. don't know why they quit. Demand drives the market."

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I guess they did offer that one product, but how can they determine market demand for radiator shrouds and side covers when they've never even offered them? I get that KLR plastic may be a "niche" market, but niche markets can be very lucrative especially when the only competition is the high priced OEM.
I was joking around, but I do agree...it is odd.




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Recently, on another forum which shall remain nameless (http://www.advrider.com), an inmate performed a sort of "market survey" regarding aftermarket KLR plastic.

He explored the possibility of manufacturing this merchandise, I presume, for fun and profit.

Haven't heard from him in awhile; a SEARCH, maybe through the KLR Only or the KLR Modifications thread, might turn up his discussion.
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