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post #1 of 24 Old 06-25-2013, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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Mesh overpants are impossible to find.

So, it's summer. I live in Buffalo, NY where it's hot and humid in the summer. People wear shorts and light clothing here because you'll sweat to death if you don't.

I have a mesh jacket that I'm happy with, breathes fine (and is a light color, which is cooler as well as more visible). I want pants to match. Hence my rant-
I like riding my bike to my buddy's houses, out and about, here and there, just wherever, whenever - why not? I want to wear shorts at my destination and not require a change of clothes when I get there.

The obvious solution:
Mesh overpants. Just pull them on when I get on the bike, pull them off when I get there.

So why aren't there any that make sense?
There's lots of rain pants - that's not what I want.

Basically, I want a exactly what would be intuitive - so it's frustrating that it doesn't exist:

I want a pair of pants that:
  • holds a pair of CE-rated knee armor at the knees
  • has abrasion-resistant material at the knees
  • has abrasion-resistant material at the seat
  • has abrasion-resistant material down both sides of the pants (1/4 of the way around the leg)
  • has mesh the entire length of the back of the pants below the seat
  • has mesh the entire length of the front of the pants except the knees
  • has mesh the entire inside of the legs
  • zippers extending up from the ankles to mid-thigh or hip for easy pull-on
  • normal cut and aesthetic - no swooshes, patches, arbitrary extra panels, and shouldn't be tight at the ankles and giant-assed at the top.
  • That being said - some thin hip protection might be appreciated.

This seems like common sense for providing protection during hot weather when people wear shorts.
So - why don't these exist?
It seems like what I'm describing is more basic than what's out there, more functional than what's out there for a non-rain overpant, and yet doesn't exist.

I'd think that nearly ALL overpants that weren't rain pants would fit this bill to solve this need, but apparently not...

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Mesh pants are made to offer as much ventilation as possible while still providing adequate protection. The manufacturers' idea of adequate ventilation may not be the same as your idea, but they're in the business.

I have found these pants to be reasonably comfortable in temperatures as high as 120 degrees, and very comfortable in the range of 60 to 90 degrees. Going beyond 90 is a challenge for any gear.

There are others...

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I have a pair that I think I bought at a bike show or a closeout place...$90! They resemble the ones Tom shows, but at 1/3rd the price. They work as you describe. The only problem is....they flow almost too much air through them.....and any object that hits the mesh areas will hurt!!! I also have been stung by a wasp 5 times before I could stop and find it tangled up in the mesh.....luckily wasn't in a delicate area!
But the benefits far outweight the problems. You also must try them on before buying....what size pant you wear will not be anything like the size that fits in mesh. If you go by the mesh pant size I'm a slim trim fighting machine, but I normally wear almost fatboy pants in a jean.....lol.

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http://www.rideicon.com/products/?productGroupId=73466

Heres one from Icon... I like their stuff. The close up pics show the materials used, and seems pretty close to what you're looking for as an "overpant"

I have waterproof overpants from them, and 2 jackets (leather and textile), plus countless pairs of gloves. They make decent stuff IMHO.

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I might add that the Airglide pant comes with a waterproof liner and a thermal liner. With the thermal liner and waterproof liner in, plus a pair of long LD underwear, I've worn those same pants in temperatures to 25 degrees with snow flurries and been quite comfortable.

That was riding through the Sierras in February. Coming down off the mountain and into the Central Valley the temperature quickly rose to about 65 and I got hot.

Off came the pants, out came the thermal liner and off I went.

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You're kidding right? Hot and humid in Buffalo? Average highs in July 80....I can only wish, that's a nice spring day here. We've been tickling 100 the last few weeks and forecast for 101 tomorrow.

Seriously, I'm just ribbing you. It's all about what you are acclimated to I guess. I just bought a very nice Cortech mesh jacket to extend my riding season and it helps, but as T says, past 90 there's not much you can do but hydrate and wear an ice pack. Not into all that so I usually hang it up when it gets that hot here.

My riding season usually begins when the kids are back in school, and the motorhomes are parked again.

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I have a pair that I think I bought at a bike show or a closeout place...$90! They resemble the ones Tom shows, but at 1/3rd the price. They work as you describe. The only problem is....they flow almost too much air through them.....and any object that hits the mesh areas will hurt!!! I also have been stung by a wasp 5 times before I could stop and find it tangled up in the mesh.....luckily wasn't in a delicate area!
But the benefits far outweight the problems. You also must try them on before buying....what size pant you wear will not be anything like the size that fits in mesh. If you go by the mesh pant size I'm a slim trim fighting machine, but I normally wear almost fatboy pants in a jean.....lol.
I like the airglide ones Tom shows, but I'm not going to buy $230 pants sight-unseen - and I think those are the ones I saw but thought didn't really have that much mesh.

I'm a 5'8" guy, wear 34 waist 30 inseam pants - most of these are sized like women's pants - apparently guys with 34" waist should have 36" inseam or something. all of them. And that scares me where the kneepads would end up.

Do you have a link to the ones that cost 1/3 what the airglide ones cost?
That's getting closer to a more sensible risk/reward...


EDIT: Or the brand/model of the pants? Maybe they are out there in cyberland...
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In May of 2012 I did a tour of Arizona. The weather was predicted to be rather nice.

Between 29 Palms CA and Salome AZ it was stuck between 118 and 120 degrees; some sort of an unexpected hot spell. I was wearing mesh top and bottom and couldn't keep up with the hydration requirements. We needed to stop about every half hour and drink as much as we could and replenish our on-board supplies when we could.

I've never been killed, not even once, but that came close.

Very sensible, flash, not to ride in that if you don't have to.

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You may be seeing long inseams because a) the pants are designed for full coverage to the boot top when in a seated position and b) the pants are designed for easy alteration of the leg hem to suit.

The Airglide are as expensive as they are because they come with the thermal and waterproof liner. Same for the matching jacket.

A pant without the liners should be quite a bit less (half) and of similar quality.

Look at the Icon pant jazzman suggests. They make good stuff. I wear Icon gloves in the summer; you can have them when I'm done with them by prying them from my cold, dead hands...

Icon has dealers near you:

BOB WEAVER M/S & MARINE INC
3400 NIAGARA FALLS BLVD
N TONAWANDA, NY 14120
Ph: 716/693-1500 - 3.7mi
Email :: Website
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HAMBURG HONDA
5133 CAMP RD
HAMBURG, NY 14075
Ph: 716/649-7669 - 3.76mi
Email :: Website
3.
HOLLINK MOTORSPORTS
386 S UNION ST
SPENCERPORT, NY 14559
Ph: 585/352-1930 - 48.63mi
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Geo, Tom has been very gracious in supplying you with nearby dealers. I too would rather buy locally whenever I can, but, here is my experience in the DFW area......I make the call first. "Hey, do you stock the XXX product in size 34?"...."Sure, c'mon down". Drive 60+ miles, get there and all that is in stock fits circus midgets or giants.

All is not lost though, Mrs. Flash is usually with me and I get to take her shopping and have a nice meal somewhere.

After exhausting the (semi) local shops I'm online ordering what I want. If you deal with reputable online stores returns are no problem. Two that come to mind are MotorcycleGear.com and Revzilla.com. Try Motorcycle Gear first, they have closeouts, last years models, etc. if they have it in your size. A crapshoot but I've gotten some great deals there and worth a look.

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