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post #1 of 21 Old 12-01-2010, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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Help! I need a new hat!

My helmets are getting old, and it’s time to get a new one.

I’ve been looking at the webbikeworld review of helmets until it has gotten to the point where all I’m seeing is fiberglass shells stuffed with foam and fabric. Aaargh! Overload!

My budget is in the $300 range, and I’d like a helmet that’s quiet and has a couple of features. I like the idea of a drop-down sun visor and some advanced ventilation. Light weight would be good, too.

To let you know where my head’s at (bad pun), the front runner is the Scorpion EXO 1000. It looks like they’ve thought through the ventilation issues and it does have a drop-down visor. The downside to it is that it is pretty heavy.

Who can help me pick out my next helmet?

Tom

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post #2 of 21 Old 12-01-2010, 06:20 PM
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A guy at work just got the EXO 1000. Says he loves it. I like the idea of the flip down visor and it looks like it has good vents. Styling however is not for me. I laid out the cash and got the Shoei Hornet and have not looked back. By far the best helmet I've ever put on my head. YMMV.

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Helmet recommendations and reviews are very difficult to make, and even harder to make so that they are applicable to all riders.

The criteria for selecting a helmet for me has changed over the years. 40 years ago, I had a metal flake painted, open face legal helmet that would accommodate my head. All the necessary criteria at the time. I think I got it in trade for a used tire. Then there were some years I didn't wear a helmet. Depended on the state I lived in. When I got involved with the sport bikes and into the sport touring bikes, I became more interested in safety. Which has brought me to the criteria I use today for selecting a helmet.

Current criteria, based on DOT certified helmets: FIT

Price, looks, noise factors, accessories, cool factor all are secondary to fit. While there are no doubt many helmets on the market that surpass my current helmet in every aspect of helmet protection, they do me little good if they don't fit my head. And thats what makes it hard to recommend a helmet to someone else. We all have different shapes of heads. If Acme Helmet makes a brain bucket for the round headed biker, the oval headed rider will need to look elsewhere, if fit is any concern to the buyer. I used to think a large helmet was a large helmet was a large helmet. I was wrong. There are large helmets for egg heads, large helmets for punkin heads, large helmets for Neanderthal heads. I have an "oval / long oval" head. Shoei makes helmets that contour to my head type fairly well, so many of their helmets fit me, and therefor are options for me.

Oval - Sometimes known as "long oval", said to be the most common American head shape

Earth - The Earth shaped head is somewhat wider in the middle, approx near the temples;

Egg - Wider at the top and narrower at the bottom.

Reverse Egg - Slightly narrower at the top than at the bottom.

My everyday helmet is a Shoei Multitech. It may not be the perfect dual sport helmet, but I am so used to it, I can't even entertain the thought of replacing it. This may be it's last season. I like the flip up face feature. It is quiet. The only complaint I have had is the nylon screws that hold the shield flip up ratcheting device to the helmet work out and get lost. Shoei is the only place that has replacement screws. You must order the entire ratcheting device to get the screws. After a few go rounds of that, I found out about Loctite for plastic fasteners. That put an end to that drama.

Anyway. IMHO. A helmet may be uber cool, wash your bike, fetch your slippers and be free plus a $100.00 rebate, but if it don't fit your head, you may be putting on more danger than safety.

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Helmet recommendations and reviews are very difficult to make, and even harder to make so that they are applicable to all riders.

The criteria for selecting a helmet for me has changed over the years. 40 years ago, I had a metal flake painted, open face legal helmet that would accommodate my head. All the necessary criteria at the time. I think I got it in trade for a used tire. Then there were some years I didn't wear a helmet. Depended on the state I lived in. When I got involved with the sport bikes and into the sport touring bikes, I became more interested in safety. Which has brought me to the criteria I use today for selecting a helmet.

Current criteria, based on DOT certified helmets: FIT

Price, looks, noise factors, accessories, cool factor all are secondary to fit. While there are no doubt many helmets on the market that surpass my current helmet in every aspect of helmet protection, they do me little good if they don't fit my head. And thats what makes it hard to recommend a helmet to someone else. We all have different shapes of heads. If Acme Helmet makes a brain bucket for the round headed biker, the oval headed rider will need to look elsewhere, if fit is any concern to the buyer. I used to think a large helmet was a large helmet was a large helmet. I was wrong. There are large helmets for egg heads, large helmets for punkin heads, large helmets for Neanderthal heads. I have an "oval / long oval" head. Shoei makes helmets that contour to my head type fairly well, so many of their helmets fit me, and therefor are options for me.

Oval - Sometimes known as "long oval", said to be the most common American head shape

Earth - The Earth shaped head is somewhat wider in the middle, approx near the temples;

Egg - Wider at the top and narrower at the bottom.

Reverse Egg - Slightly narrower at the top than at the bottom.

My everyday helmet is a Shoei Multitech. It may not be the perfect dual sport helmet, but I am so used to it, I can't even entertain the thought of replacing it. This may be it's last season. I like the flip up face feature. It is quiet. The only complaint I have had is the nylon screws that hold the shield flip up ratcheting device to the helmet work out and get lost. Shoei is the only place that has replacement screws. You must order the entire ratcheting device to get the screws. After a few go rounds of that, I found out about Loctite for plastic fasteners. That put an end to that drama.

Anyway. IMHO. A helmet may be uber cool, wash your bike, fetch your slippers and be free plus a $100.00 rebate, but if it don't fit your head, you may be putting on more danger than safety.
Totally agree. I'm lucky that the cheap full face helmets HJC makes fit me perfect.




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post #6 of 21 Old 12-01-2010, 08:19 PM
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I had the Nolan N-103 for about three months. The flip up face shield was cool as was the flip down sun visor. BUT... it was very heavy and extremely noisy. And it gave me a damned headache after it was on my nugget for more than 15 minutes (should've walked around the store with it on that long before dropping the cash for it.)

For off Road I bought a Scorpion VX24. Outstanding helmet. I used it for the Shadow of the Rockies ride in August and it was great. Good airflow, light, just what I needed for an off road excursion.

For street riding on my ST I have a Shoei RF1100. Light weight, quiet and comfortable, but $$$.

I tried out the Scorpion EXO900 and 1000. They seemed to be similar to the Nolan and I was leery of buying something that would be another complete ass pain.

Everybody I've read about likes the EXO 1000 though, so I can't say anything bad about it, having never owned one. I can say that Nolan, although well built and I'm sure a good helmet on the right head, was not what I expected it to be.

Probably didn't help you a damn bit with your decision... did I?

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post #7 of 21 Old 12-01-2010, 08:28 PM
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I've been wearing a Shoei Hornet for almost a year now. Overall I like the helmet, it fits me well and is reasonably quiet. My pet peave with this helmet is it's lack of antifog properties. When you pay the kind of money Shoei demands for their helmets you shouldn't have to go searching for a cure for this ailment. The Hornet for me is a better road helmet than it is an offroad helmet but it does both well enough if you only wish to have one helmet.
My previous helmet was a Nolan X-lite flip-up. I really liked the flip up face, it was just so convenient. I also liked the quick release buckle on that helmet. It's downside was it was really heavy and very noisy. It had an external sunscreen that contributed to the noise issue so it came off. I prefered my sunglasses to the sunshield anyways.
I think the EXO 1000 looks like an excellent lid. Lots of bang for the buck and if it fits your head then it's a winner.
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I know one helmet you wont want if you like a quiet lid... The Scorpion EXO900 Transformer. I got one for fathers day and it is without a doubt the loudest helmet I have ever had. Even with earplugs it's loud. Plus the venting kind of sucks and it gets hot and stuffy. My old AGV was way quieter and a lot lighter. I would definitely buy another AGV. The 900 is cool for the Master Chief factor and the flip up chin bar (I wear glasses), otherwise I much prefer AGV.
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My helmets are getting old, and it’s time to get a new one.

I’ve been looking at the webbikeworld review of helmets until it has gotten to the point where all I’m seeing is fiberglass shells stuffed with foam and fabric. Aaargh! Overload!

My budget is in the $300 range, and I’d like a helmet that’s quiet and has a couple of features. I like the idea of a drop-down sun visor and some advanced ventilation. Light weight would be good, too.

To let you know where my head’s at (bad pun), the front runner is the Scorpion EXO 1000. It looks like they’ve thought through the ventilation issues and it does have a drop-down visor. The downside to it is that it is pretty heavy.

Who can help me pick out my next helmet?

Tom
I bought an HJC IS-16 about 6 months ago after reading through Webbikeworld's reviews. I like it well enough I guess. I was wearing an Aria XD and the HJC is definetly quieter and dosen't get jerked around in the wind like the XD.

I thought that the drop down visor would be way cool but I find that I don't use it that much. It came with a dark tint and yellow tint visor, I have the yellow installed. My glasses have photochromatic lenses so I don't really need additional dark. The yellow is nice on dreary days as it adds contrast.

I wouldn't get another helmet with an inner visor after riding with this one. I put a strip of sun shade on top of the main visor and that takes care of low sun glare that I thought I would use the inner visor for. It's hotter with the inner visor down also.

The new Shoei Qwest looks good.

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post #10 of 21 Old 12-01-2010, 11:58 PM
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If only you were looking last week! Cycle gear had the EXO1000 for $49 Black friday sale! Online they still have them for $139 and they have EXO400 for even less.

As for ventilation I have never seen a better helmet then the Seven Zero Seven Vendetta. I am a hot head and my RF1100 and pretty much most of my friends helmets of all sorts of brands fog up on me even while moving but the Vendetta stays clear all the way till a long stoplight. Also, it doesn't blow right into your eyes and your face doesn't freeze trying to vent. It is a little heavy compared to my Shoei but I am thinking of snabbing one as a back up/winter rider to help with my hothead. I just got one for my sister as an early Christmas gift and after a couple hours trying everything she could it came down to the EXO vs Vendetta for fit. Then I got to play with it in 30* temps too. lol

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