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post #41 of 49 Old 01-31-2020, 01:29 AM
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So ... no pop-up bikini-clad Kawasaki Calendar Girls?




I'm flattered; reading a snippet recalled from my post of nearly two years ago!

Researching, I think a complete reading justified:

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Just, . . . please, oh PLEASE, do NOT follow the lead of .net in any "re-vamping" of this forum!

I just hit KLR650.net, performing some minor research, and was met with: The tackiest, chintziest, greeting I have ever encountered in my life on the Internet. Schlock worse than found visiting Gatlinburg, TN (and that's saying something!).

Couple of mindless "babes," posed before a misleading, "Kawasaki' sign, singing, "How Great We Art" about website .net.

Background "music," a cacophony of noises perhaps perby a roomful of apes with electronic music machines. Needless, mindless scrolling of indexes.

I could go on. Heard the website was for sale. I'm reminded of, O. Henry's, "The Ransom of Red Chief." How much will .net PAY someone to take it over?

Again, just don't go in the direction of .net, please.

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post #42 of 49 Old 01-31-2020, 04:02 PM
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I'd be interested to hear what happened. Can you elaborate?
I'm an administrator on benzworld.org. This forum has been one of the most successful MB boards since the early 2000's that was bought/taken over by Autoguide/Verticalscope a few years ago.

The board, like this one, used the vBulletin platform.
However a few months ago without any consultation with our local admin and moderator team, we had the XenForo platform foisted upon us.
This platform is basically for mobile/cell phone users that seemed to treat our membership as "Boy Racers".
Many of the private and staff forums were visible to all, also as admin we did not allow members to delete their own posts after a very short time had passed. This feature disappeared and many members went on a deletion spree going back many years that left many informative topic useless!

The admin, supermods and mods had all of their permissions removed so we could not perform even the simplest of tasks without asking VerticalScope in Toronto to perform them.

Months later I have been given the excuse for an "Admin Panel" that does nothing except for me to look up members profiles.

Most of our dedicated and established members have now all left and joined MBWorld that is not owned by VerticalScope. Many members too that had paid for premium membership have lost that title and privileges.

Verticalscope have informed me that eventually all of their boards will be changed to run XenForo (one of their other Kawasaki forums is already on the XenForo platform.)

If you need more information please ask.

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James,

Thanks for that info. I suppose it is something we may need to expect to show up here at some point.

I have seen quite a bit of functionality overrun by the perceived need to make everything be besonderswunderbar for handheld devices. A couple of years back Google destroyed a lot of YouTube functionality under this guise. My own videos were adversely affected and many channels suffered some loss of function.

My own website has minimal optimization for handheld/mobile devices as I find that it compromises the laptop and desktop usage. I might be doing myself a disservice in that, but I'm letting it be a bit of my own rage against the machine. That site has no monetization in it, so if a handful fewer visitors show up every day I could not give two shits. Their loss, not mine. Ooooh, I feel empowered...

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post #44 of 49 Old 01-31-2020, 04:58 PM
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Thank you for sharing your insight James.

I've seen other forums that evolved as a kind of hive-mind of interested and often passionate owners that worked to put together a significant library of tech articles, how-to guides, diagrams and detailed understanding of the machinery at the heart of these conversation. Good neighbors helping each other via the internet.

Some of these then get sold off to a for-profit entity who leverages the hard work and writings from 10-20 years of forum traffic to sell subscriptions and foist advertising in everyone's face. The work that some members had put into their guides and how-tos was phenomenal. For most of these members, their motives was to give back to the community and help others.

Now some corp entity is selling access to their hard won knowledge, and profiting from the gifts and largess of others.


Worship the dollar it seems, and I find that quite dispiriting.
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post #45 of 49 Old 02-01-2020, 11:28 AM
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I'm an administrator on benzworld.org. This forum has been one of the most successful MB boards since the early 2000's that was bought/taken over by Autoguide/Verticalscope a few years ago.

The board, like this one, used the vBulletin platform.
However a few months ago without any consultation with our local admin and moderator team, we had the XenForo platform foisted upon us...
This entire post sounds exactly like what's happened at another VerticalScope forum that I'm on.
It would be a shame to see another forum go down the tubes.
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post #46 of 49 Old 02-01-2020, 07:05 PM
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This entire post sounds exactly like what's happened at another VerticalScope forum that I'm on.
It would be a shame to see another forum go down the tubes.
It's all "Yuppie" corporatism!!
We have had so many ridiculous schemes foisted upon us that all were so crass that they all fizzled out very quickly.
This corporate decision to change all forums to XenForo has seen many excellent, well run and busy forums go to the dogs. Another very popular Toyota VS owned forum is now just a shell of it's former self, the local admin and mods just resigned and gave up.

I'm also admin on the very sleepy benzforum.com that some from Benworld came over to, why VS didn't try out XenForo on that as a trial beggars belief. That forum still has exactly the same vB format as this one, but sooner or later it'll meet the same end.

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I can't think of much I'd change. However, I can think of things that I would like to see stay the same. Some of those things are: It is very easy to leave a reply. The Reply button is very easy to locate, and the Quick Reply window on the bottom of the page are very handy. I also like receiving the email listing popular topics. I think this is a particularly easy forum to use.

Perhaps one change could be to the search function. It might be useful to be able to do a search for specific phrases. For instance the exact phrase: "Stock Gear Ratio" rather than three words: stock, gear, ration
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I can't think of much I'd change. However, I can think of things that I would like to see stay the same. Some of those things are: It is very easy to leave a reply. The Reply button is very easy to locate, and the Quick Reply window on the bottom of the page are very handy. I also like receiving the email listing popular topics. I think this is a particularly easy forum to use.

Perhaps one change could be to the search function. It might be useful to be able to do a search for specific phrases. For instance the exact phrase: "Stock Gear Ratio" rather than three words: stock, gear, ration
From very recent experiences just give up with the XenForo search function and use the google custom search..
I could copy and paste many examples from members of my two forums that their XenForo search function is useless:
However with the existing vB platform, searches that contain three letters or less are not recognised. E.G type in oil change, Oil is not recognised, so google custom search is the way to go.
Bottom line ...google is your friend
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