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post #1 of 17 Old 07-06-2008, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
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Could this be the new GPS subsitute?



Very little information about this one, it's too new.




Asus EEE Mini PC Laptop and you can get it with XP.
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/1000.htm

What a kick ass idea. No hard drive, it's all flash memory based which means no shock issues when being bounced around. Has USB connections, wifi, and flash card reader. With the USB connections you can hook up all kinds of stuff, even external hard drives when you are at home for more storage. I've read that the screen is not very bright or good in sunlight though.... UGH!! This is very subjective though. What one person might think is bad, another may think is very acceptable.

I can see getting this little sucker and hooking up a Delorme Earthmate GPS and being able to use Delorme mapping software which is by far the best desktop mapping software ever.

If you don't like touchpads, you can plug in one of these to have a mouse for any conditions.


Will have to work out the mounting issues though, but it's so light that it shouldn't be very difficult. Would not recommend having the lid open during any severe off road use, but who knows until somebody tries it.

Can you imagine having a 9" screen with the full Delorme suite at your disposal? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

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post #2 of 17 Old 08-08-2008, 08:30 PM
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And cheaper than a Zumo! Hmmmmmm
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having run an in dash computer setup in my car for alittle more than a year i can tell you tis is a bad idea. i mean once you get it up and running and into the program, great, but it takes a little time which makes it a big hassle for starting an stopping. Also no matter how simplified the controls are it took too much of my attention in a car i can only imagine how bad this would be on a bike. in the end i settled for an in dash navigation system that did everything i wanted my computer to do except for get in the internet, you really can't beat devices built to do only a few things and do them well when operating a vehicle (windows does not fall into this description in any way unless you're really good with programming and windows XP embedded version)
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I tried a laptop and DeLorme a couple of times on camper trips. It's fine when you've stopped and are planning the next day, but a dedicated nav device is way better for going down the road.
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Delorme street atlas on a laptop is a real time GPS tracking system. Works just like a dedicated GPS system when you attach a USB GPS receiver. Before gas prices went sky high we used to make 1200 mile vette trips during weekends. One of us had to navigate so we setup a laptop/gps because we had such elaborate routes seeking out all the curvy/twisty roads. Delorme SA on a laptop functions a thousand times better then any dedicated GPS device I've ever seen. I couldn't begin to explain all the benefits right now. One of the best is the option of using a logitech thumb trackball mouse and I hear ASUS is also looking at a touchscreen version as well. With a standard GPS device, these trips would have been much harder to work out for many many reasons.

Once these little laptops starting becoming mainstream and even cheaper, vehicle GPS devices will be obsolete far as I'm concerened. Clearly for trail use and such handheld devices will still be needed.
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Yeah, we used Streets and Topo with the GPS function. Great for planning, but unless you've got a passenger to function as a dedicated navigator or want to make stops every time you need to pick/plan a route it's way too attention demanding for any kind of safe operation. Not to mention the clutter of the laptop, transponder cable, power cable, etc.

We're planning a lot of motorcoach travel when wife retires (a la DaddyJoe). I'm going to work up a system so that the computer can ride on a console shelf or such and be available to both the driver and passenger. I think this is where one of the mini's might really shine.

What I hope to put together is just a touch screen in the cockpit with the CPU somewhere else. With the current (and rapidly developing) satellite i'net capabilities, it will be feasible to not only navigate but have full i'net capabilities as you roll merrily (at 9mpg) down the road.....
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Even without a passenger, we would set the laptop in the passenger seat facing us with the trackball velcroed to the armrest. The voice commands were great, never had to look at the system.

I don't really understand what you mean about picking/planning a route? Even a standard GPS requires attention to accomplish this. And how often do you need to change the route that it's a constant concern? We would do 1200 miles worth of road changes after road changes and it never required constant adjustments to the route after it was initially planned.

I've always wanted to setup a PC in a car with an LCD up front. The temps around here kept me from bothering though. That's why a laptop works so great, you can take it out of the car when it's too hot or cold.

Yes, there are more wires though. We cut out a custom fit board that would hold the laptop, mouse, power pack and gps all velcroed in to a nice neat package that was easy to handle. All we had loose was the cig adapter and GPS that would be up on the dash. Everything else was tucked and tied neatly together.

With a smaller system like these mini laptops and the new mini GPS receivers and mini trackballs... well it's just all that much more simple.

I look forward to hearing about your setup when it's ready to go. Take pics, I like to see this techie stuff being developed.
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It'll probably be a few months before I start working on the motorcoach system and I'll need lot's of techie advice. We've got indash navs in wifes Prius and our Dodge camper truck -- which we like a lot, but I want a small networked computer system in whatever motorcoach we have, so it would be cool to have the nav function integrated, particularly with in-motion sat i'net.

The Prius nav is great - voice commands and all that stuff - but you can't input while moving which I think is ridiculous (lawyers, I'm sure). There's a $100 spoof, but it's not that big a deal. I worked around the Kenwood system in my Dodge by spoofing the emergency brake wire, so it thinks the emergency brake is on -- which also let's you play your favorite DVD while going down the road. Pretty sure that's illegal in most states and not something I care to do anyway.

Anyway, my big concern right now is getting over this damned back pain and getting my sisfiddy rolling.

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Watching a movie is illegal? HMMMM! I better rethink my MIO setup then. I put the MIO up in the dash in front of the rpm gauge and can see it through the steering wheel just fine. Got the sound going through the car speakers. Makes those long intercrap drives a breeze for sure. People think it's nuts, but it's not like I'm sitting there watching it with my full attention. It's sort of a glance at it thing and listen to the dialogue.
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Yep, pretty sure it is in Texas and wouldn't be surprised if it's not in most other places.

I was surprised to learn on our last trip to Minnesota that it's illegal there to have anything attached to the windshield. Guess it's just a backdoor attempt to ban radar detectors. More nanny state stuff -- it's going around. At least we have less of it in Texas, but it's still here.
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