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post #1 of 10 Old 11-09-2010, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Does anyone have any info on the Garmin Nuvi GPS, I'm looking at some different brands, and would like to know the pro/cons of the particular brand.
do they show trails/fire roads?
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Does anyone have any info on the Garmin Nuvi GPS, I'm looking at some different brands, and would like to know the pro/cons of the particular brand.
do they show trails/fire roads?
thanks

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Icepick -

I use a Nuvi 750. I'm on my second one, having beat the stuffing out of the first one. I returned it to Garmin in exchange for a refurbed one. The one I sent back was still working, but had started to get a bit weird and I figured I'd best swap it out before Garmin ran out of refurb units.

I like the Garmin 750 because it has a built in MP3 player and you can upload routes to it. As far as I know, it was one of the few Nuvis with an MP3 player. I think most of the upscale ones can load routes.

I'm not sure of the new 4 digit series Nuvis, but I don't think any of them have MP3 players and don't know which ones upload routes.

The weak point in the Nuvis is the min-usb port. It's the only way to talk to the unit. If you lose that port, you've lost the ability to talk to the Nuvi and upload routes. The port on my old one was flakey, probably from constantly plugging and unplugging the min-usb power cable on the bike.

The firmware started to go a bit batty and give me odd errors, but that turned out to be having way too many favorites stored. I removed the favorites and the problem went away.

The earphone jack can also be a weak point if you're using the MP3 feature. The wind whips the cord that goes to your helmet, which stresses the jack. Mine dropped a channel; part of the reason I sent for a refurb unit.

I've addressed both of these issues by modifying the circuit board that is in the 750 cradle so that I can pull audio off of it, and I've changed over to using the 18-pin Hirose plug for power isntead of the usb port. There's chattage about this over on the GPSPassion forum, but it's specific to the older high-end Nuvis.

The unit it self was, I found, very tough. I wish I had taken a picture of mine before I sent it back. You wouldn’t think something that looked like that could still work. Aside from the errors related to too many favorites, it never missed a beat.

You should cover it with a plastic bag when it’s wet out, but other than that I didn’t give mine any special treatment.

Nuvis have a good GPS engine in them, but the software doesn’t accommodate some things you may be sued to. For example, it doesn’t do tracks. You can’t save and upload tracks – only routes. It does keep a “track”, but you can’t use it to do a track-back. There are a lot of features on the 60CX that are useful GPS features that you won't find on a Nuvi. There are hidden screens, though, that unlock some pretty good info.

The Nuvi is a GPS for the masses, after all.

They aren’t a Zumo, but they don’t cost like a Zumo, either.

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Thanks, how are they one logging / fire roads?
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I find mine good on roads that have designators - that is like BLM roads that are official roads that are identified like '2N20'. If it shows on a paper map, you'll probably find it in the GPS. If you are on some goat trail or hunting road it won't show, 'cuz if it ain't in the mapset it ain't there.

That said, once you've been on the road you can download the track, chop up the section you want to save, convert it to a route, upload it and use it or share it for later reference. This is the downside of Nuvis; they won't use tracks, so you have to convert them to routes.

This is all a function of the quality of the mapset. If the road is in the mapset, it'll be on the GPS. Garmin supply a pretty good mapset with all their products.

It is possible to upload custom mapsets to GPS units, but it's kind of like graduate work to get it done.

The issue with uploaded mapsets is how well they register to datums. If they don't register real well, the accuracy will be off. The unit may not snap to the road and you'll see your track paralleling the road on the map. The GPS is accurate, but the map isn't.

If you are looking for 'real' GPS capability you might want to look at something like the 60 series.

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Thanks, I'm looking at getting a Maestro for 45 smackers, if it doesn't do what I want, I don't think I'd be hurt too bad.
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That's a nice deal.

Please post up your impressions of that thing.

Which model of Maestro?

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Ahh....SYHT! I think pulling my hair out right now would be a better idea than trying to figure out which one of these bloody things will do what I want.

I found a nuvi 750 for 149.00 here. I want to be able to down load trail routes that have been up loadd to the PC from a group I ride with........does this bloody thing do this??

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Well, yes, after a fashion.

What you will get from your buddies are called tracks. The Nuvi doesn't deal with tracks - you can't just upload them and use them.

What you will have to do is convert them to routes. A free program called GPS Trackmaker can do that, and I can walk you through that process.

Once that is done, you save the converted routes in a .gpx file and upload them to the Nuvi, either directly into the proper directory on the Nuvi, or by using Mapsource, which is Garmin's management program and is available for free.

Once in the Nuvi you can call up the routes and use them.

The process of conversion will lose some resolution, especially on longer routes.

There is another method that I just learned about and am not yet conversant with.

That involves using a $20 program to lay the tracks into a map, make the map transparent, and overlay the map onto the map in the Nuvi.

If you want to use the tracks directly, you want one of the Garmin handhelds, and I think the 60 series offers a lot of functionality at good value. There are several to choose from.

Let me know if you want more detail on converting tracks to routes.

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post #10 of 10 Old 11-29-2010, 01:55 PM Thread Starter
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I ended up getting a Magellan Roadmate 3000t at a pawn shop for $50.00, with charger.
It works pretty well, it has a music player, and picture viewer, i cant listen to music while using the GPS function, and don't think viewing pictures on the road would be a good idea. The battery life is not very long, (2.5ish hours) I need to put a 12volt plug on the bike to keep it charged.
thinking of making my own dash board.
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