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post #1 of 12 Old 05-01-2015, 02:12 PM Thread Starter
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Talking Denali D-4 LED lamps on 2014 KLR

Hi. Installed the lamps with the Kawasaki Specific Mount that bolts under front fender.

Got it all wired and in place except the power wire. The Fenali kit has a white wire that has to be connected to a power source so that lamps work only while bike is on.

My relay is bolted to the plastic rear fender. Under seat. I think running a cable all the way to the headlamp low beam is far away. The tail light wires are closer to relY, and away from engine and not crowding several wires already running under tank.

Anyone done this instalation using tail light wire ? Denali kit comes with a Posi conector that pinches power wire (tail lamp wire in this case)

I do not have the bike shop manual and need to know color of wire to use. Any photos would be appreciated.

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There is a red wire coming off the headlight fuse under the seat. It splits an goes forward to the low beam and rearward to the tail light and license plate light. You can tap it any place you like. It is hot when the ignition switch is on and dead when it is off.
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Thanks a lot. I will use the wire going back toward license plate and tail light. Cool.

Will post pics soon.

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I am having a hard time using one of the pinch connectors that come with the lamp kit

On one side there is a needle like side, that is fine, I just position a "U" lshaped part, that is threded, and screw in the needle side, pinching the cable.

The other side, apparently I am supposed to stick in the cBle, with the tip naked, peeled off, and by screwing in the cap, it is supposed to hold. But the wire is free to loosen up and come out. Weird connector.

What if I just connect that power cable to the battery ? I know that would mean the lamps could be turned on while the bike is off the ignition, but it is my bike, I am not worried about someone turning on my lights.

Would it be ok like that ?
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I don't know the connector you're talking about ,so I can't help with it.

If you ever park your bike where kids -8 to 18 - walk by, you might think about whether from curiosity -8 year olds - or meanness - 18 year olds - they may play with your switches.
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Hi.

I was able to use the Posi Tap connector. But lamps do not work yet.

I followed the fuse box. A red wire leaves the fuse box and merges onto the larger wire loom. Following the wires going back, followed the red wire before it goes into a connector that leads to the tail lamps.

I used the Posi Tap connector there. Rest of kit is wired, terminal with fuse goes to positive bat. Terminal with round connector to negative bat. The other two connections to each lamp. Then the switch .

The remaining wire is the white wire, that attaches to a hot wire while bike is on.

Perhaps I pinched a wrong wire. Just in case, tried everything, in case I pinched the brake light wire, the signal light wire, but nothing happened upon deploying the different devices, no lamps (auxiliary) work while bike lamps are on, (no engine, just ignition switch to on position) nor while stepping on the rear brake, or using indicators.

Any photos of the actual wire used for the installation ? Perhaps I will have to take the rear rack and fender off the bike to be able to go after the tail lamp wire.

I do not want to cut into the wire looms. Want to find a wire I can just pinch. A naked wire, not covered by black tape as in wire looms.

The fuse box I see has only fuses for radiator fan and lamps. No provision for a cesories.

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You are correct. There is no stock fuse for accessories. That is why the in-line fuse is provided in the red wire connecting to the battery + terminal. As you say you only have to hook three wires to the motorcycle:
The red with the fuse to the battery +
The black with the ring terminal to the battery -
The white to a hot when on wire.

The red (on when hot) wire you traced to from the fuse block back should be going to a WHITE colored connector with only two wires on it - the Red and a Black with yellow stripe. That is the license plate light circuit and the Red is hot when on and the Black?yellow is ground. You could also use the red wire in the three-wire connector with Red, Blue/White and Black/Yellow wires.

If you wish to test your work, take that white wire from the Posi-Tap and touch it to the battery +. If everything is wired right (hard to do wrong) the new lights should then work with the switch. Make sure the fuse is in the holder in the red wire to the battery and that it is not blown.

If it works by touching the white wire to the battery, you just have to make sure you have a good connection with the Posi-Tap and license plate light is on.
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Hi.

Did connect the white wire to the POS BAT terminal and indeed lamps turned on upon deploying switch. Also green light in swtch went on and turned red upon turning ligths on.

Close inspection to wire I pinched tells me it is a RED-White (red with white stripe) and there are 2 other wires (3 in total) within that white connector. It is not a 2 wire connector.

I wish I had a workshop manual to lnow the colors of different wires.

I think perhaps my best bet would be to take appart rear tray and fender in order to get a clear look at wires.

That would be better than sending a long white wire over to the headlamp.

The issue I had with taking apart the rear cargo tray was that the Allen bolts seem strange in size. Neither SAE nor Metric sizes seem to fit except the round tips of some. Seem to be allen but round inside, not allowing the flat Hex to go in fully.

Weird.
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Hi.

Did connect the white wire to the POS BAT terminal and indeed lamps turned on upon deploying switch. Also green light in swtch went on and turned red upon turning ligths on.

Close inspection to wire I pinched tells me it is a RED-White (red with white stripe) and there are 2 other wires (3 in total) within that white connector. It is not a 2 wire connector.

I wish I had a workshop manual to lnow the colors of different wires.

I think perhaps my best bet would be to take appart rear tray and fender in order to get a clear look at wires.

That would be better than sending a long white wire over to the headlamp.

The issue I had with taking apart the rear cargo tray was that the Allen bolts seem strange in size. Neither SAE nor Metric sizes seem to fit except the round tips of some. Seem to be allen but round inside, not allowing the flat Hex to go in fully.

Weird.
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On my 2011 KLR there two white colored connectors out of the four connectors going from under the seat back under the luggage rack.

A white two wire goes to the license plate light: Red wire and Black/Yellow wire. Red is hot with the ignition on. Black/Yellow is ground. You will see that Black/Yellow is ground everywhere throughout the harness.

A white three wire to the tail light/brake light: Red wire, Blue/White wire and Black/Yellow wire. Red is hot with ignition on. Blue/White is hot only when the breaks are applied (brake light).

A gray two wire goes to the right turn signal.

A black two wire goes to the left turn signal.

Some turn signal wires change colors going through the connector, but you don't want to use turn signal wires here anyway.

The red wire in either of the two white colored connectors should do the job for you. I suspect the Posi-Tap is not making the connection for you.

Another test you can do is to press the release latch on one of the white connectors to separate the connector and make contact with you white trigger wire to the part of the connector lined up with the red wire. If your tail light and license light are working that red wire has to be hotand bring on your lights just like touching the battery + did.
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Hi.

Did the release connector thing and tested the white wire on the connector. It worked with the license plate lamp and tail lamp wires as well .

The issue seems that the PosiTap connector that came with the kit is too big for the tiny wires the motorcycle has. I am amazed to see such tiny wires.

The white wire from lamp kit matches PosiTap size, but the needle-puercing side that is supposed to dig into the hot wire is too big for the wire size. So the wire ends up getting crammed between big needle and wall off connector.

Tried piercing the tiny wire but desisted. I am afraid the needle would simply section the wire

Strange that Denali did not address this issue. Will have to find a sandwich connector for a tiny hiot wire and the wider kit wire.

Meanwhile I will connect the white wire to the Positive Battery so I can use the lamps. Will look for the right connector so then I can finish the job.

The switch has a led green bulb that would not eat the battery away.

Went to a couple places around here but could not find a suitsble connector.
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