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post #61 of 64 Old 07-30-2019, 01:24 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your question?
I guess I believe in, and subscribe to, supporting my Motorcycle Dealers with purchases for my bikes if it's my KLR or my KTM for maintenance and even some accessories. For example, I just purchase a set of rear and front EBC brake pads for my 2015 KLR and it cost me a couple dollars more at the dealer than it would have from a discount website. I would rather give a couple dollars to my dealer than to the discount website. A small price to pay in order to keep my Kawasaki Dealer around than not. I'm also not into additives that may be blended into motor oils for specific situations other than what they are intended. Are there replacement oils out there for this situation? Yeah, sure (I guess) but I won't be using them. I will be using the Kawasaki Performance Oil and filters from my Kawasaki Dealer and Motorex Formula 4T and filters from my KTM Dealer. I've seen too many Motorcycle Dealerships close their doors.

I guess this is what I meant.
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I guess I believe in, and subscribe to, supporting my Motorcycle Dealers with purchases for my bikes if it's my KLR or my KTM for maintenance and even some accessories. For example, I just purchase a set of rear and front EBC brake pads for my 2015 KLR and it cost me a couple dollars more at the dealer than it would have from a discount website. I would rather give a couple dollars to my dealer than to the discount website. A small price to pay in order to keep my Kawasaki Dealer around than not. I'm also not into additives that may be blended into motor oils for specific situations other than what they are intended. Are there replacement oils out there for this situation? Yeah, sure (I guess) but I won't be using them. I will be using the Kawasaki Performance Oil and filters from my Kawasaki Dealer and Motorex Formula 4T and filters from my KTM Dealer. I've seen too many Motorcycle Dealerships close their doors.

I guess this is what I meant.
We can all do whatever we want with our own money. As for dealerships' merchandise.. Too much markup for my liking. I shop around. Take tires for example. Why would I buy a D750 from a Kawasaki dealer ( in my case it means a 60 mile round trip drive) for half again as much as I can get the very same tire from someplace like Revzilla and get it shipped free to my door? Dealerships come and go.. The ones that are fair and don't rape the people will stay in business. Do you also buy everything for your car at the dealership you bought it from, or do you also shop at the local auto parts store?? I wish I had you money.

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A couple of years ago I watched a Discovery Channel program about petroleum products and just happened to see the Gray & Silver/Black bottles of the KMC USA, Kawasaki Semi-Synthetic 10W40 coming thru the dispensery at an unidentified Reading PA oil company plant.

I'm reasonably certain the the motor companies contract oil producers in each country to blend the Genuine Product oils for them, to each of their individual specifications.
You mean, genuine Kawasaki oil is NOT imported? Then, where does the genuine Kawasaki oil sold in Japanese dealerships come from?

I think you're correct, suggesting each marketer contracts with oil refiners to produce lubricants to each brand's specifications. An oil refinery near my home town filled tanker trucks with gasoline, trucks badged with many different brands (e.g., CONOCO, Cities Service, Gulf, Sinclair, etc.). Each vendor likely specified the characteristics for their particular products, all produced from the same refinery.

You posted, "I know nothing about that part of WW2 history (Japanese conquest of the Dutch East Indies)."

"Cliff Notes" summary; how America entered World War II: Prior to December 7, 1941 (date of attack on Pearl Harbor), Japan imported essentially all its oil, largely from the USA. President Roosevelt embargoed oil shipments to Japan, in an effort to hinder Japan's invasion and aggressive war against China and most of southeast Asia. Japan decided to capture the Dutch East Indies for the oil resources there, needed to continue their war effort and expand their empire ("Greater Southeast Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"). But, Japan considered the American Pacific Fleet an obstacle to this ambition. Thus, Japan attacked the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbor, precipitating the United States' declaration of war against Japan, America's full and formal entry into World War II. Within days, Germany, an Axis ally of Japan, declared war on the United States.

Enough about history, what about the future? Within ten years or so, we will use no "fossil fuels," including gasoline and petroleum-based lubricants; no polluting internal-combustion engines (including those powering KLR650s) will exist, and cars, airplanes, and cows (no steaks or cheese) will be gone. At least, that's what the politicians debating tonight say!

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To each his own, for sure, I guess regarding oil brand usage. I don't have any issues with other spec brands as long as they're used for what they were and are engineered and intended for IMHO, but this is the way I like it. Get the products below from my Kawasaki Dealer where I purchased my bike. As I mentioned before I don't mind giving my Kawasaki Dealer some attention regarding maintenance products. If my small maintenance products purchases keep their doors open a little longer then so much better for me and other Kawasaki enthusiasts. They've always treated me fair over the years so I don't mind reciprocating. I can visit the dealership, BS with the employees and have some laughs, look at all the new machines and other product lines on the sales floor, smell the new rubber and basically ask the Shop Manager any questions I may have. In general have some fun. I'm not putting anyone down regarding outside oil spec usage in their KLR I'm just saying this is the way I would rather roll.
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