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post #1 of 10 Old 09-30-2017, 05:13 PM Thread Starter
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New to forum and question about possible KLR purchase

Hi all!

I'm new to this forum and to the world of KLRs, but not to the world of motorcycles. Back in the 80's I bought my first bike, a 1975 Honda CB400F. That was followed a few years later by a then-new 1987 Honda 600 Hurricane. I left motorcycles for many years after that (life happens). I got back into bikes about 5 or 6 years ago, starting with a 1983 Honda VF750F that I worked on restoring followed by a 1986 VFR750F. I sold all of those and now own a 2009 Buell XB12Ss. I'm considering a KLR650 to add to the stable. I know that it is hard to know what any given used motorcycle is worth, but I'm hoping you folks might be able to give me some insights about this one. I'm planning on going this coming Wednesday to check it out. Any advice is appreciated.

Here is the link. Sorry I can't post the actual URL yet since not enough posts.

https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/...324001123.html

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post #2 of 10 Old 10-01-2017, 01:31 AM
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James . . . my opinion, if a dealer will stand behind the merchandise . . . I wouldn't run, screaming, from this deal. While the price might appear a little on the high side, the integrity of a reputable dealership should be worth something.

A suggestion: Look the bike up in Kelley Blue Book (kbb.com); see what similar models are selling for in your zip code area. Guideline only, but . . . should let you know some approximate righteous pricing basis.

I'm not one for haggling; some won't consider an acquisition without thinking they've brought the seller to his knees; demanding a tribute of a lower price than asking. In my view, this is discretionary recreational purchasing; a few dollars one way or another are not critical.

What IS critical? Acquiring a bike you will love and enjoy. One that is misrepresented or unsatisfactory is no bargain at any price.

And, there's little at a stake here: You could probably realize close to the asking price by parting out the bike in question without ever even riding it for one wheel revolution.

I think the KLR would make an ideal stable-mate to your Buell; however . . . what YOU think is key. With your realistic expectations for a used bike of that age, I believe you could be very happy together; good luck!
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Thanks, Damocles...

I checked KBB and NADA. KBB has average retail price at $1945 and NADA has it at $1310. Looking at other asking prices in my area, I'd certainly say that KBB is closer and perhaps a bit low. That said, I would certainly shoot for asking the dealer to go down to the KBB price, especially given the relatively high mileage (27k). Speaking of which, would KLR folks consider 27k to be a high mileage bike? In looking around on the forums, I wouldn't think so as many people have much higher mileage than that. One of my goals for this bike is to have a reliable bike for other kinds of riding that I don't do with the Buell (although the Buell would still be my primary bike). The KLR is attractive given how long it was manufactured with so little changes...parts should be plentiful and they seem pretty easy to work on when necessary.
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The mileage is of no particular consequence for that bike's age, IMHO.

If price is of particular concern to you, negotiate away. The accessories may have no value to you, and a store-front dealership's endorsement of no significance.

You can probably find a cheaper KLR650.
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Hi Damocles...

It's not that a dealership endorsement is of no value and actually the accessories on this bike are one of the attractive features. That said, it isn't clear to me that this dealership gives any kind of endorsement and I'm doing research to find out how trustworthy they are. For example, if they tell me that the doohickey mod was done, how do I know I can trust that it actually was? I'll need to go by the reputation of this place that I can find from other customers online, I guess.
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Hi Damocles...

It's not that a dealership endorsement is of no value and actually the accessories on this bike are one of the attractive features. That said, it isn't clear to me that this dealership gives any kind of endorsement and I'm doing research to find out how trustworthy they are. For example, if they tell me that the doohickey mod was done, how do I know I can trust that it actually was? I'll need to go by the reputation of this place that I can find from other customers online, I guess.
Likely won’t mean a thing in reality.

I bought my goldwing from a riding instructor who had it “checked out thouroghly” at a reputable dealer.
I knew very little about the Goldwing so I trusted his words.
Turned out the 3 of the 4 air valves in the carbs were toast, 1 was missing.
It was burning coolant. I later found out the #1 aluminum cylinder sleeve liner was chipped beyond repair making the block trash.

My advice for buying is to learn everything you can about the bike and what to look for, then haggle the shit out of the price. Dealers are used to it.
Walk away from it if your gut feeling tells you.

2016 KLR 650
2017 BMW S1000RR (traded in for
2018 Ducati V4S
1983 GL1100 Goldwing
2017 Yamaha R1
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I'd say . . . walk away from this one. Your doubts will only magnify as time goes on, so many uncertainties exist in any used motorcycle.
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I've decided to walk away from this one. Some folks on the other KLR forum also noticed some potential issues (poorly made engine guards, missing passenger pegs, nonstock radiator hoses and fork boots, etc.)...and it is quite a ways away from me. So, I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the advice! Hopefully, I'll be an official KLR owner sometime in the near future.

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Submax, if you find something to look at and want a second pair of eyes just let me know. I've owned a 2006 for 20k miles and now a 2017. I've done the Doo on three bikes and know my way around the KLR a bit...Not an expert but I could give you an honest, none bias opinion.

I'm in the Clackamas area but always looking for an excuse to ride...
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Thanks, outdoorgb! I'll likely take you up on that sometime! And, if you ever find yourself in the market for a Buell XB, I'm happy to return the favor.
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