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post #1 of 21 Old 10-31-2018, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
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I am picking up a used KLR Sat. Been wanting one for quite a while. I found a used 2012 and can't wait to get it, having never ridden a KLR.
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post #2 of 21 Old 10-31-2018, 07:34 PM
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Nice looking bike!

However, I would not ride it just yet. The chain looks to be too tight. You need quite a bit of slack or you will damage the output shaft seal. Ain't good for the bearing, either.

The proper slack is achieved when you can lift the chain and it will just touch the underside of the swingarm right just about where that white dot is on your swingarm.

I'd be interested to know what rear sprocket that is, i.e. manufacturer and number of teeth.

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Nice looking bike!

However, I would not ride it just yet. The chain looks to be too tight. You need quite a bit of slack or you will damage the output shaft seal. Ain't good for the bearing, either.

The proper slack is achieved when you can lift the chain and it will just touch the underside of the swingarm right just about where that white dot is on your swingarm.

I'd be interested to know what rear sprocket that is, i.e. manufacturer and number of teeth.
I will mention what you said before I pick it up. It happens to be at a Kawi dealer, lol. It would be strange, if they didn't notice the chain tension. I will let you know about the sprocket. I have a 170 mile ride back from the dealer Saturday, on the bike.
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...It would be strange, if they didn't notice the chain tension...
The dealership bike-preparer (not mechanic) sees 100 sport bikes and dirt bikes for every KLR he sees. The KLR is not a dirt bike with huge suspension travel and doesn't look like one to the bike-preparer, either. He doesn't set it up like a dirt bike. It looks more like a road bike so it often gets set up with the slack that would be right for a sport bike. It needs a hell of a lot more than a sport bike needs, though, but that's the way it gets rolled onto the floor.

Out on the floor is a salesperson who really doesn't know shit from Shinola about how a bike should be set up.

The slack needs to be such that the chain will just touch the swingarm at a point near the screw (the white dot in your picture) that holds the chain guide to the swingarm.

It's important. Check on it, insist it be set right if it is not right. If it is not right, never mind what the salesperson might say, tell them to read the manual.

It's not a new bike; if it were I'd be concerned about the remainder of the bike being properly set up. Give it a good once-over before you take it. Check the oil level, tire pressures, missing fasteners, brake pad condition, speedo drive positioning, etc. Anything that doesn't look kosher, question it.

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but you'll be riding a bike you are unfamiliar with 170 miles just to get it home. It'd be nice if you made it without any drama.
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post #5 of 21 Old 11-01-2018, 01:24 AM Thread Starter
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I appreciate your comment, and I will definitely do all of the above things, before I take the bike. I suspect, I will be spending a bunch of time here, as there is a ton of info, to absorb. Thank you, much appreciated!
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...It would be strange, if they didn't notice the chain tension...
The dealership bike-preparer (not mechanic) sees 100 sport bikes and dirt bikes for every KLR he sees. The KLR is not a dirt bike with huge suspension travel and doesn't look like one to the bike-preparer, either. He doesn't set it up like a dirt bike. It looks more like a road bike so it often gets set up with the slack that would be right for a sport bike. It needs a hell of a lot more than a sport bike needs, though, but that's the way it gets rolled onto the floor.

Out on the floor is a salesperson who really doesn't know shit from Shinola about how a bike should be set up.


The slack needs to be such that the chain will just touch the swingarm at a point near the screw (the white dot in your picture) that holds the chain guide to the swingarm.

It's important. Check on it, insist it be set right if it is not right. If it is not right, never mind what the salesperson might say, tell them to read the manual.

It's not a new bike; if it were I'd be concerned about the remainder of the bike being properly set up. Give it a good once-over before you take it. Check the oil level, tire pressures, missing fasteners, brake pad condition, speedo drive positioning, etc. Anything that doesn't look kosher, question it.

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but you'll be riding a bike you are unfamiliar with 170 miles just to get it home. It'd be nice if you made it without any drama.
You were correct, the chain was setup like a street bike,with 1/2" deflection(slack). I pointed it out, and got the , this is how it should be, I ended up saying fix it of forget it. The sales manager, got involved, and they have the bike in the back, going over everything on it, to make sure it is good. Funny, they have a used 2016, with the chain slack set as you said it should be. I am so glad you mentioned it to me. Thank you, sir!
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I hope you had a safe ride home and enjoy the bike for many miles and years to come.

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Hi Tom, again thanks for the advice. I made the 170 mile ride back with no issues and started noticing a few things. I think I may have stumbled upon a gem. Here is the sprocket you asked about.Do you see anything else?
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I'm not familiar with that sprocket, though it looks neat. I'm not sure if it is meant to be some sort of quick-change gazmotchey or what. If I am reading it right, it was made in Poland, which is interesting. I need to research that one. I do see quite a bit of wear on the side of the teeth. That kinda indicates that the chain alignment is off and that the chain may also have been run too tight. I would pull the sprocket cover and clean everything really well, then keep an eye on that area looking for an engine oil leak. That would indicate a stressed seal from an overtight chain. The Primary Drive chain is pretty good quality, too. I think it is the house brand at RMATV or somesuch.

It's not clear what that cabling is alongside the carb, though it looks sorta like a Garmin cable. At any rate, it seems to have been rubbing on the throttle cable plate. That's not a safe condition and the cable should be re-routed, preferably up along the frame backbone.

The preload adjuster is a nice bit of kit. I'd like to see the shock it's controlling; you might have a nice shock back in there. The SAE plug is nice, too, as you can keep the battery charged up during the Idaho winters.

All in all, the prior owner seems to have done some good stuff to the bike.

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Will do the things you mentioned. I was thinking the carbs might be new and the head looked new as well, so I thought some work may have been done. It runs great...60 mph 4200rpm, 80mph 5500rpm, 90 mph 6500rpm. The guy had put all kinds of plugs, audio, Mic, 2 plugs like for a battery tender, etc.
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