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post #11 of 24 Old 04-27-2020, 01:16 PM
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Thanks so much for the link references. That superdoo one is excellent. I've heard and read about the doo-hickey issue since I've heard, read about and seen KLRs. In the superdoo, reference, the author brings up the general discussions on whether or not it is a real issue and a necessary or good to have modification. One look at that slack and useless tension spring can make one a believer. With that said, before Cliff, long time owner of Cliff's Powersports in Bremerton and a volume Kawasaki dealer, passed away I once asked him if he thought the upgrade was necessary. His response was that he could not recall ever seeing a KLR damaged by that failure but he understood the issue and many customers either had him do the upgrade or did it themselves.

When I consider Kawasaki's negligence in building a bike with this weakness, I am reminded of Harley Davidson's Twin Cam, cam chain tensioners that was a ticking time bomb in the early TC models. Harley eventually fixed the problem by replacing the spring tensioners with hydraulic but the damage had been done. Having had a number of Harleys over the years, I knew of several owners who had their engines grenade at under 20,000 miles. When I sold my 2001 Super Glide to my cousin, I warned him repeatedly that he needed to take address the cam chain tensioner issue. I went on a bit. The point is that Kawasaki is not the only manufacturer guilty of this type of negligence.

BACK TO KLRs. If I cannot get to the original owner of my 08, I'll open it up in the fall when I change the oil.
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post #12 of 24 Old 04-27-2020, 05:52 PM Thread Starter
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Hi, Navigator, Check out this on Facebook this is the link name.. Doohickey problem revealed and fixed on a 2010 kLR 650 by Michiel Kotze .. Michiel is from South Africa this was the first person I watched do the DOO on another bike take a look at the DooHickeys and springs he has changed. Eagle Mikes parts are first class and fit tighter with less side play than Factory also the hole is at a different angle giving you more adjustment, even if you only fit the Torsion spring and do not do the DOO you would be better position than with the factory set up. My own 2008 had been adjusted 2 days before I did the DOO, when I stripped the Bike the Original spring was out of adjustment and all but falling off of its Anchor Pin that was at less than 8000 kms. I know the +2008 Bikes have a modified and stronger Doo Hickey but I was still not convinced and changed To A Torsion spring Eagle Mike Doohickey I purchased both New Gaskets and Tools Required. I have done a Few Friends Bikes and all were out of any available adjustment, Good luck with your Decision. I have even called Eagle Mike with a Question and even though we like on opposite coasts and I live in Canada He called me back within a couple of hours. That's Service.
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post #13 of 24 Old 04-27-2020, 10:28 PM
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Unfortunately I'm not on FB so cannot take advantage of the wealth of information available. I keep telling myself I must set up an account.

I purchased a carb from Mike, and spoke to him on the phone once, and concur that he is a great guy that provides top notch service to we KLRers. I will always turn to Mike first.
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post #14 of 24 Old 04-28-2020, 12:16 AM
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post #15 of 24 Old 04-28-2020, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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Hi Tom You are right some off the face book posts are terrible. I have found over the years you have to make your own mind up with regards to Facebook which can be very hard if you are not too Technically inclined in the first place.This may make it hard for the new owner to thin the Gold from the Dross, it is like any information you have to decide for yourself what you think is usable or forgettable information. I watch Facebook mainly for background on what the Job may entail, tools required . Unfortunately where I live in Atlantic Canada the Kawasaki KLR is a very much a Minority Motorcycle, only 6, 2008 motorcycles were sold here in my Province the First year of the gen 2 model and I owned 2 of them all be it one only lasted 24 -36 hrs before being returned, having Broken down at the dealership on Pickup and would not start after I took it home the Next morning. We do not have a close connected number of like minded riders or Home Mechanics in the KLR ownership due mainly lack of numbers of the KLR type motorcycles we have here with no Fire Roads or Public land to ride on, or the trails,these are only open to motorized traffic in the winter to snow mobiles. Bicycle and foot traffic any other time Most riders ride I would say mainly Harley Davidson style motorcycles and have their own fraternity's. So trying to get riders of KLR machines together to do Tech Sessions is Nigh on Impossible. The KLR Bikes I have worked on are usually from ex Work colleagues from other Provinces across Canada. Perhaps at some time in the future, once the Covid19 Pandemic has settled down and the groups who carry out Tech Sessions on this Forum are able to get back together they might Video the sessions and post them Here on this Forum for the rest of us who are unable to attend and benefit from the information found at these Sessions too. Or Perhaps this has already happened and I have just not found any Video's as Yet. Until then I guess I have to read more on all KLR forums Pick through the Gold and Dross on Face book and Do what we all like minded Riders do best that is RIDE, Stay Safe and Well and Keep up the good work you are doing .
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post #16 of 24 Old 05-04-2020, 08:23 AM
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Hi Tom You are right some off the face book posts are terrible. I have found over the years you have to make your own mind up with regards to Facebook which can be very hard if you are not too Technically inclined in the first place.This may make it hard for the new owner to thin the Gold from the Dross, it is like any information you have to decide for yourself what you think is usable or forgettable information. I watch Facebook mainly for background on what the Job may entail, tools required . Unfortunately where I live in Atlantic Canada the Kawasaki KLR is a very much a Minority Motorcycle, only 6, 2008 motorcycles were sold here in my Province the First year of the gen 2 model and I owned 2 of them all be it one only lasted 24 -36 hrs before being returned, having Broken down at the dealership on Pickup and would not start after I took it home the Next morning. We do not have a close connected number of like minded riders or Home Mechanics in the KLR ownership due mainly lack of numbers of the KLR type motorcycles we have here with no Fire Roads or Public land to ride on, or the trails,these are only open to motorized traffic in the winter to snow mobiles. Bicycle and foot traffic any other time Most riders ride I would say mainly Harley Davidson style motorcycles and have their own fraternity's. So trying to get riders of KLR machines together to do Tech Sessions is Nigh on Impossible. The KLR Bikes I have worked on are usually from ex Work colleagues from other Provinces across Canada. Perhaps at some time in the future, once the Covid19 Pandemic has settled down and the groups who carry out Tech Sessions on this Forum are able to get back together they might Video the sessions and post them Here on this Forum for the rest of us who are unable to attend and benefit from the information found at these Sessions too. Or Perhaps this has already happened and I have just not found any Video's as Yet. Until then I guess I have to read more on all KLR forums Pick through the Gold and Dross on Face book and Do what we all like minded Riders do best that is RIDE, Stay Safe and Well and Keep up the good work you are doing .
I think what you will find is that here in the Atlantic area there are more KLR riders than you would imagine. I was out yesterday, did around 300km and I encountered about a dozen KLR's in my travels. Now to qualify this some, I encountered many more cruisers and crotch rockets but there were a fair amount of adventure bikes out there. I know here in NB there is a NB dual sport forum. I can only imagine that Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and PEI have something like that as well. I have used the NBDSC forum and have had some online contact with other KLR owners. Just some food for thought. Having said all that I agree, the KLR ADV social scene here is lacking. Look at the TCAT(trans Canada Adventure trail?) it completely bypasses 3 or the 4 Atlantic provinces. I think that would be a good and fun ride.
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post #17 of 24 Old 05-04-2020, 03:46 PM Thread Starter
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Hi there Csland77, You may be right about KLR motorcycles in NB. I have just found here on PEI where I live I usually see more road bikes either moving or parked at a cafe, restaurant or at the side of the road, only one of my work colleague rides a bike and his is a Harley, he rides with his brother and friends. Non of my immediate friends ride Motorcycles, mainly because I did not get back into riding motorcycles straight away when I emigrated to Canada so the friends I made were not Riders? I get to ride some of the Beautiful red soil Back roads, usually in the Fall when the leaves are changing with my wife 2 up but they are a bit tame. I am looking to get a more comfortable raod bike Possibly an older Gold wing or an Air Head BMW to ride longer distances on. its difficult at the Moment with the Covid19 situation we are only able to leave the Island for Hospital or emergency Appointments so this limits the Motorcycles that can be Purchased at the moment. Looking forward to getting out once the weather warms up a bit.
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post #18 of 24 Old 05-05-2020, 04:42 AM
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Well with any luck PEI and New Brunswick will open the provincial border to non essential traffic. Given that both provinces have been very fortunate so far with our numbers. I get it though. I don’t think I would want to ride my klr 2 up for any great distance. Personally I am not a fan of 2up riding anyways. I have checked out the used bike market on the island and you are definitely right, there isn’t too much to choose from.
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post #19 of 24 Old 05-05-2020, 11:35 AM Thread Starter
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Yes Cslang77 with any luck I hope we do not get any Spikes all our Covid19 + infected people are all returning from international Travel. Yes it is slim pickings on the Private Bike sales front and bikes used at the dealers are all top price. I remember seeing one Bike a Suzuki V Strom 650 way over book price nothing special in a dealership for two years and they would not budge on the price, I know I called more than twice just to check. You have to look all the time on kjijij and other sites especially as the better weather come's. I missed a nice silver BMW air head Boxer R80 RT touring Bike Twice, it was sold once and 2 yrs later it was sold again, Both times I saw it too late. I do not mind 2 up riding as long as there is room the KLR is a Bit Cramped and the passenger is not a screamer on the wireless intercome. I last toured any distance in 1995, a 2 weeks tour around Scotland 2 up, then we sold the Bike later that year as we were emigrating to Canada the Following year. My other 7 Bikes were sold too to help fund our trip across Canada. Leaving just a Norton Commando which my Poor Dad gave away during one of his bad days with Alzheimer's.
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post #20 of 24 Old 05-05-2020, 12:32 PM
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Good Morning.... Just had to chime in here on the Doohickey... If you are going to go to the trouble to open up the cases just to see if you have it, You should have the Eagle Mike stuff ready to install at that time. Once you get in there, it only takes a few minutes to properly install it. I still have a spare EM Doohickey at my hangar just in case one of my buddies buys a KLR and isn't sure of what he's got. There are a lot of YouTube videos on the procedure and once I watched them a couple times, I spent a "casual" evening doing the job. Be sure to WASH the bike and engine real good prior to opening up the cases. It will save you tons of time just wiping down parts trying to avoid dirt contamination while performing the procedure. Don't ask me how I know!! Also, when you do the Doohickey, it's a perfect time to install the 16T primary sprocket at the same time. Have Fun,
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Thanks so much for the link references. That superdoo one is excellent. I've heard and read about the doo-hickey issue since I've heard, read about and seen KLRs. In the superdoo, reference, the author brings up the general discussions on whether or not it is a real issue and a necessary or good to have modification. One look at that slack and useless tension spring can make one a believer. With that said, before Cliff, long time owner of Cliff's Powersports in Bremerton and a volume Kawasaki dealer, passed away I once asked him if he thought the upgrade was necessary. His response was that he could not recall ever seeing a KLR damaged by that failure but he understood the issue and many customers either had him do the upgrade or did it themselves.


BACK TO KLRs. If I cannot get to the original owner of my 08, I'll open it up in the fall when I change the oil.
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